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I guess if that's how you wanna view it. I guess I should make it clear that my parent are buying me the bike (I was trying to imply it without saying that because I didn't wanna come off as that kid who gets everything)
Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider
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When in motion, squids can be observed to "park" on corner entry and abuse the throttle on any available straight.
Why would you get boots after you've ridden for a while? Makes no sense since you're more likely to drop it sooner than later. Get into the good habits now before you pick up any bad ones.
If your serious about riding go ahead and start buying your gear. Craigslist is a good place to start. Motorcyclecloseout.com, motorcyclegear.com are both good places. Also make sure your buying the gear to crash in. Not just to look cool. I have a bell star white and black helmet, icon Daytona retro white/red/blue jacket, both icon black pants and gloves, alpine* smx plus black and white boots. Yea im mismatched like crazy but I only spent $500 on the whole set.
so, when it comes to the new bike/used bike thing, your parents (who have ZERO experience with this sort of thing) are going to ignore the advice of experienced riders and demand that you get new bike? you have an unfounded, untested faith in the honesty and integrity of a motorcycle dealership. what most riders find out is that their warranty isn't worth very much and the "reputable" shop that they bought their bike from screws up the repair half the time anyway.
this isn't like buying a car. this is buying a "toy". even if you plan on using it for a daily driver, this is considered by the entire rest of the world as an unnecessary luxury item. the dealerships, in my experience, don't seem to be "policed" as much as a car dealership and a LOT more shady shit goes down in their garage than you would ever believe possible.
for a first bike, your best bet is to find a friend of a friend or a similar situation. someone you can reasonably trust that has 1) taken good care of the bike and 2) isn't hiding anything bad about it.
there are 2 things about your intentions that are a terribly BAD idea:
1) that your first bike should be bought new for warranty protection
2) that your first bike should be financed
you are going to drop it or scuff it all up while moving it MINIMUM. be prepared for disappointment here.
i would actually trust a bike that's had some miles put on it more than a brand new machine that hasn't been broken-in yet.
the banks that finance bikes are NOTORIOUS scammers and opportunists; they understand this is a luxury item and RAPE you with terrible interest rates. doesn't matter how good your credit is, you're lumped into the rates that are normally reserved for someone whose credit SUCKS ASS. they usually have no "grace period" for late or lost payments (i had a payment that got lost in the mail and i had to argue on the phone for an hour to get the $37.50 late payment charge removed).
in the end, you will do what you want, but you should at least acknowledge all the great advice you've been getting on this forum thus far.
now that you are more aware and have been warned, don't complain when you don't heed our advice and end up with problems.
my last piece of advice is; FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE. at least until you've been riding awhile and gain some experience with all things motorcycle...
I read the first and fourth page, i see bad ideas and bad motives. Your mentality is ass backwards for this sport, for this toy game.
When i first started riding, i financed a brand new Ninja 650R, and dropped that bike before i even got 1 mile on it. So the value of that bike went from 7500 when i bought it to about 4000. The warranty that you want to have is pretty useless. It is made for any issues you have with the bike that could be at fault of whomever made the bike. Thing is, if you actually do have issues, most likely it might be covered by some recall that the company does, or you are better off fixing it yourself with parts you find online be it OEM or aftermarket.
For your mindset of gear, i will say this. I started riding with only a helmet, and whne i actually rode my bike around the neighborhood i felt extremely vulnerable and squishy. I later got gloves, actual boots and a motorcycle jacket so I would be more protected. I still feel vulnerable and squishy, but atleast I have more protection on my body. I still have legit motorcycle boots and kevlar jeans and leathers on my list of gear to buy, because I am growing that feeling again with the jeans i wear and jeans don't do much to save your skin as you would hope they do.
You do not need to spend the majority of your money and credit on a first bike. Regardless of what it will be, you will need to start small and cheap so you have more money for gear, MSF courses or just for yourself. Then when you get bored and tired of the bike in 4 months (which is how long i give you), then you won't be stuck in a loan with a bike that you are utterly bored and tired with. Which I was in with my bike, hell my bike got trashed by someone else, and i got screwed over in insurance and to this day i am still paying off the loan for my first bike. I have a second bike now which i bought used and it is fully paid off, but I am still on the leash for my first one.
And the spelling in this thread makes me want to stab a newborn kitten.
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Buy motorcycle specific boots. Not icons, not timberlands, not work boots with an instep strap disguised as motorcycle boots. Those boots have a big thick sticky chunky rubber sole that will do what when you lowslide? Stick to asphalt. So your now 30mph body is sliding along and your foot wants to go 0 mph. What do you think will happen? Do you like walking? Buy full length "racing" boots. Trust me. Cortech has some halfway decent boots that are inexpensive for starting out, Gaerne is nice, TCX is good, A* and Sidi are obvious top picks as well. Go into a store that sells gear, tell them your budget and they'll help you out. That's what they're there for.
Twist of the wrist 2 on DVD is better than the book as some things translate better visually in motion as opposed to text only. Another good book is this one:
Total Control: High Performance Street Riding Techniques: Lee Parks: 9780760314036: Amazon.com: Books
And this one:
Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well: David L. Hough: 9781933958354: Amazon.com: Books
Christmas is just around the corner, ask for em. Props for listening overall to the advice given and being more mature than some 25 year olds coming in here wanting a gixxah sixah as their first sled. At 18 if my folks offered me a ninja 300 I'd be all over it like white on rice too.
I had no idea there is a DVD I'm gonna have to look into that for sure.
Also can I walk in racing boots because I'm gonna commute to college so I wanna be able to walk to class once there.
Thanks for the advice
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