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Why would you get boots after you've ridden for a while? Makes no sense since you're more likely to drop it sooner than later. Get into the good habits now before you pick up any bad ones.
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If your serious about riding go ahead and start buying your gear. Craigslist is a good place to start. Motorcyclecloseout.com, motorcyclegear.com are both good places. Also make sure your buying the gear to crash in. Not just to look cool. I have a bell star white and black helmet, icon Daytona retro white/red/blue jacket, both icon black pants and gloves, alpine* smx plus black and white boots. Yea im mismatched like crazy but I only spent $500 on the whole set.
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I guess if that's how you wanna view it. I guess I should make it clear that my parent are buying me the bike (I was trying to imply it without saying that because I didn't wanna come off as that kid who gets everything)
so, when it comes to the new bike/used bike thing, your parents (who have ZERO experience with this sort of thing) are going to ignore the advice of experienced riders and demand that you get new bike? you have an unfounded, untested faith in the honesty and integrity of a motorcycle dealership. what most riders find out is that their warranty isn't worth very much and the "reputable" shop that they bought their bike from screws up the repair half the time anyway.

this isn't like buying a car. this is buying a "toy". even if you plan on using it for a daily driver, this is considered by the entire rest of the world as an unnecessary luxury item. the dealerships, in my experience, don't seem to be "policed" as much as a car dealership and a LOT more shady shit goes down in their garage than you would ever believe possible.

for a first bike, your best bet is to find a friend of a friend or a similar situation. someone you can reasonably trust that has 1) taken good care of the bike and 2) isn't hiding anything bad about it.

there are 2 things about your intentions that are a terribly BAD idea:

1) that your first bike should be bought new for warranty protection

2) that your first bike should be financed

you are going to drop it or scuff it all up while moving it MINIMUM. be prepared for disappointment here.

i would actually trust a bike that's had some miles put on it more than a brand new machine that hasn't been broken-in yet.

the banks that finance bikes are NOTORIOUS scammers and opportunists; they understand this is a luxury item and RAPE you with terrible interest rates. doesn't matter how good your credit is, you're lumped into the rates that are normally reserved for someone whose credit SUCKS ASS. they usually have no "grace period" for late or lost payments (i had a payment that got lost in the mail and i had to argue on the phone for an hour to get the $37.50 late payment charge removed).

in the end, you will do what you want, but you should at least acknowledge all the great advice you've been getting on this forum thus far.

now that you are more aware and have been warned, don't complain when you don't heed our advice and end up with problems.

my last piece of advice is; FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE. at least until you've been riding awhile and gain some experience with all things motorcycle...


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Old 12-08-2012, 12:05 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Why would you get boots after you've ridden for a while? Makes no sense since you're more likely to drop it sooner than later. Get into the good habits now before you pick up any bad ones.
No I'm gonna get boots just not racing ones


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Old 12-08-2012, 12:06 PM   #50 (permalink)
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If your serious about riding go ahead and start buying your gear. Craigslist is a good place to start. Motorcyclecloseout.com, motorcyclegear.com are both good places. Also make sure your buying the gear to crash in. Not just to look cool. I have a bell star white and black helmet, icon Daytona retro white/red/blue jacket, both icon black pants and gloves, alpine* smx plus black and white boots. Yea im mismatched like crazy but I only spent $500 on the whole set.
That's a great deal ill have to check it out


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so, when it comes to the new bike/used bike thing, your parents (who have ZERO experience with this sort of thing) are going to ignore the advice of experienced riders and demand that you get new bike? you have an unfounded, untested faith in the honesty and integrity of a motorcycle dealership. what most riders find out is that their warranty isn't worth very much and the "reputable" shop that they bought their bike from screws up the repair half the time anyway.

this isn't like buying a car. this is buying a "toy". even if you plan on using it for a daily driver, this is considered by the entire rest of the world as an unnecessary luxury item. the dealerships, in my experience, don't seem to be "policed" as much as a car dealership and a LOT more shady shit goes down in their garage than you would ever believe possible.

for a first bike, your best bet is to find a friend of a friend or a similar situation. someone you can reasonably trust that has 1) taken good care of the bike and 2) isn't hiding anything bad about it.

there are 2 things about your intentions that are a terribly BAD idea:

1) that your first bike should be bought new for warranty protection

2) that your first bike should be financed

you are going to drop it or scuff it all up while moving it MINIMUM. be prepared for disappointment here.

i would actually trust a bike that's had some miles put on it more than a brand new machine that hasn't been broken-in yet.

the banks that finance bikes are NOTORIOUS scammers and opportunists; they understand this is a luxury item and RAPE you with terrible interest rates. doesn't matter how good your credit is, you're lumped into the rates that are normally reserved for someone whose credit SUCKS ASS. they usually have no "grace period" for late or lost payments (i had a payment that got lost in the mail and i had to argue on the phone for an hour to get the $37.50 late payment charge removed).

in the end, you will do what you want, but you should at least acknowledge all the great advice you've been getting on this forum thus far.

now that you are more aware and have been warned, don't complain when you don't heed our advice and end up with problems.

my last piece of advice is; FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE. at least until you've been riding awhile and gain some experience with all things motorcycle...


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Actually my parents have had over 10 bikes all together. They started on new bikes they dropped them they got the parts replaced. I was just saying about financing and stuff so I didn't have to bring up they were gonna buy it for me. Now I do understand it isn't advised to start new but I'm not gonna complain if they are gonna by it for me. I imagine they are paying cash since it is like 5000ish for the bike. And I would defiantly get full coverage. But thanks for the advice and warning. I do realize ill probably drop it eventually and when I do it will be my fault so ill pay to get it fix.

I do realize there are benefits of starting used. And if I was gonna by the bike myself I would buy used. Thanks for the advice though


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Also my dads old racing buddy has a motorcycle repair shop and if the dealer screwed anything up I would go to him instead


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I read the first and fourth page, i see bad ideas and bad motives. Your mentality is ass backwards for this sport, for this toy game.

When i first started riding, i financed a brand new Ninja 650R, and dropped that bike before i even got 1 mile on it. So the value of that bike went from 7500 when i bought it to about 4000. The warranty that you want to have is pretty useless. It is made for any issues you have with the bike that could be at fault of whomever made the bike. Thing is, if you actually do have issues, most likely it might be covered by some recall that the company does, or you are better off fixing it yourself with parts you find online be it OEM or aftermarket.

For your mindset of gear, i will say this. I started riding with only a helmet, and whne i actually rode my bike around the neighborhood i felt extremely vulnerable and squishy. I later got gloves, actual boots and a motorcycle jacket so I would be more protected. I still feel vulnerable and squishy, but atleast I have more protection on my body. I still have legit motorcycle boots and kevlar jeans and leathers on my list of gear to buy, because I am growing that feeling again with the jeans i wear and jeans don't do much to save your skin as you would hope they do.

You do not need to spend the majority of your money and credit on a first bike. Regardless of what it will be, you will need to start small and cheap so you have more money for gear, MSF courses or just for yourself. Then when you get bored and tired of the bike in 4 months (which is how long i give you), then you won't be stuck in a loan with a bike that you are utterly bored and tired with. Which I was in with my bike, hell my bike got trashed by someone else, and i got screwed over in insurance and to this day i am still paying off the loan for my first bike. I have a second bike now which i bought used and it is fully paid off, but I am still on the leash for my first one.

And the spelling in this thread makes me want to stab a newborn kitten.
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I read the first and fourth page, i see bad ideas and bad motives. Your mentality is ass backwards for this sport, for this toy game.

When i first started riding, i financed a brand new Ninja 650R, and dropped that bike before i even got 1 mile on it. So the value of that bike went from 7500 when i bought it to about 4000. The warranty that you want to have is pretty useless. It is made for any issues you have with the bike that could be at fault of whomever made the bike. Thing is, if you actually do have issues, most likely it might be covered by some recall that the company does, or you are better off fixing it yourself with parts you find online be it OEM or aftermarket.

For your mindset of gear, i will say this. I started riding with only a helmet, and whne i actually rode my bike around the neighborhood i felt extremely vulnerable and squishy. I later got gloves, actual boots and a motorcycle jacket so I would be more protected. I still feel vulnerable and squishy, but atleast I have more protection on my body. I still have legit motorcycle boots and kevlar jeans and leathers on my list of gear to buy, because I am growing that feeling again with the jeans i wear and jeans don't do much to save your skin as you would hope they do.

You do not need to spend the majority of your money and credit on a first bike. Regardless of what it will be, you will need to start small and cheap so you have more money for gear, MSF courses or just for yourself. Then when you get bored and tired of the bike in 4 months (which is how long i give you), then you won't be stuck in a loan with a bike that you are utterly bored and tired with. Which I was in with my bike, hell my bike got trashed by someone else, and i got screwed over in insurance and to this day i am still paying off the loan for my first bike. I have a second bike now which i bought used and it is fully paid off, but I am still on the leash for my first one.

And the spelling in this thread makes me want to stab a newborn kitten.
Ok then I'll fill you in on the second page because it is important. I'm not buying the bike it is gonna be a gift to me. I just didn't wanna come off as a kid who's parent buy him everything that's why I was trying to get away from the whole how is the bike being purchased topic. 2nd I'm gonna get full gear, I see how stupid people are driving cars so I really don't wanna see what happens when they can't see me. I have my licenses I have taken the MSF course twice one of those times was just a review when I was gonna buy a bike last year.

I'm gonna give myself a year. And I might not get a new bike since I know I'll upgrade idk I really like the ninja 300 that's all


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Buy motorcycle specific boots. Not icons, not timberlands, not work boots with an instep strap disguised as motorcycle boots. Those boots have a big thick sticky chunky rubber sole that will do what when you lowslide? Stick to asphalt. So your now 30mph body is sliding along and your foot wants to go 0 mph. What do you think will happen? Do you like walking? Buy full length "racing" boots. Trust me. Cortech has some halfway decent boots that are inexpensive for starting out, Gaerne is nice, TCX is good, A* and Sidi are obvious top picks as well. Go into a store that sells gear, tell them your budget and they'll help you out. That's what they're there for.

Twist of the wrist 2 on DVD is better than the book as some things translate better visually in motion as opposed to text only. Another good book is this one:

Total Control: High Performance Street Riding Techniques: Lee Parks: 9780760314036: Amazon.com: Books Total Control: High Performance Street Riding Techniques: Lee Parks: 9780760314036: Amazon.com: Books

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Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well: David L. Hough: 9781933958354: Amazon.com: Books Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well: David L. Hough: 9781933958354: Amazon.com: Books

Christmas is just around the corner, ask for em. Props for listening overall to the advice given and being more mature than some 25 year olds coming in here wanting a gixxah sixah as their first sled. At 18 if my folks offered me a ninja 300 I'd be all over it like white on rice too.
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Another tip - go to the gear forum, there's a list of places you can shop from that are reputable that have good prices.

As far as helmets go, try on a lot. Try on 10. Wear them around the shop for 5-10 minutes. Do not buy a helmet sight unseen. They have to fit your headshape properly. It's beyond important that you do this, it could save your life. Now go read and get yourself up to speed.
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Man you guys are really giving it to this guy. He has good intentions and seems serious about getting better and being a non hooligan rider.

GMAN Congrats on being a soon new rider. Get the 300 new. Have fun, be safe. Wear the gear always. You know.


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Buy motorcycle specific boots. Not icons, not timberlands, not work boots with an instep strap disguised as motorcycle boots. Those boots have a big thick sticky chunky rubber sole that will do what when you lowslide? Stick to asphalt. So your now 30mph body is sliding along and your foot wants to go 0 mph. What do you think will happen? Do you like walking? Buy full length "racing" boots. Trust me. Cortech has some halfway decent boots that are inexpensive for starting out, Gaerne is nice, TCX is good, A* and Sidi are obvious top picks as well. Go into a store that sells gear, tell them your budget and they'll help you out. That's what they're there for.

Twist of the wrist 2 on DVD is better than the book as some things translate better visually in motion as opposed to text only. Another good book is this one:

Total Control: High Performance Street Riding Techniques: Lee Parks: 9780760314036: Amazon.com: Books

And this one:

Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well: David L. Hough: 9781933958354: Amazon.com: Books

Christmas is just around the corner, ask for em. Props for listening overall to the advice given and being more mature than some 25 year olds coming in here wanting a gixxah sixah as their first sled. At 18 if my folks offered me a ninja 300 I'd be all over it like white on rice too.
I had no idea there is a DVD I'm gonna have to look into that for sure.
Also can I walk in racing boots because I'm gonna commute to college so I wanna be able to walk to class once there.
Thanks for the advice


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