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Old 11-30-2012, 04:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You're looking at it from the perspective that you'd like to buy a bike that you'll use down the road. However, you really don't know what you'll want in a bike down the road. At this present moment, with no street bike experience, you think that a GSXR 750 is what you'll want for a long time. You may find this to be true, or you may find that you're drawn to a different type of bike.

It makes sense to start on something cheaper, and once you put a few miles on it and figure out what you like/dislike about that bike, then buy something that you want to hold onto for longer. With your dirt background, which sounds pretty extensive (assuming you're not exaggerating), maybe a 500 or 650 would be a better choice for you for a first bike than say a 250.

Have you priced insurance on a GSXR 750 (or 600 for that matter)? At 21 years old, that might change your mind REAL quickly. You'll likely be able to put full coverage on a 250/500/650 for less than you can get minimum liability on a 600/750 SS, assuming comparable years.
I think this is spot on. Before I started riding I though the R1 was my dream bike. It was my goal. Now I know that my R6 is the perfect bike for the style of riding I do.

PLUS, now I want an even smaller bike for street riding because they are so much more fun on the street.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Why does everyone get tired of a 250? Every time I ride one I still enjoy it. I enjoyed it much more then my 750.
It seems like people who don't ride look down on the 250 and people who ride know how awesome they are!
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:46 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Why does everyone get tired of a 250? Every time I ride one I still enjoy it. I enjoyed it much more then my 750.
Depends where you live and ride. They are extremely fun bikes in the twisties but here in Houston where there's LOTS of straight roads everywhere they just lack that giggle factor you get out of something with 100+hp.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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*Note: I just wanted to say I don't think I'm a "special snowflake" and I'm sorry you think that. I am no longer in touch with my father, and none of my friends ride, but I wanted others personal input and this seems to be the way to go. You should all be proud noobs like me come to your forum. That means people want your input, value your input, and actively seek YOUR input; and in my opinion, that means something. Thank you all for your continued help.

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Why's everyone giving this guy a hard time? He came here wanting a GSXR 750. After several posts advising him against it (and even a few advocating that choice), he seems pretty receptive to other, smaller engine size, choices in bikes.

For fuck sake people, have we gotten to the point that we denigrate and call all new riders names who don't begin their first post with telling us they are going to start on a 250? People come to the new riders section of a bike forum because they don't know all the answers. How many of us heard that 600s make fantastic starter bikes when we were first getting involved in this sport?

If he came here to validate his choice and kept making excuses for why he should get the 750, than I can understand the special snowflake label.
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@ Live Free - Yeah, don't be put off by a few remarks. Honestly, the collective board means well and most of the folks here are truly concerned with safety despite the back handed sarcasm. However, the board has had more than it's fair share of total newbies who think they are Rossi and insist on buying a Super Sport for a first bike (special snowflakes) regardless of sound advice along with countless trolls so you can probably understand the collective lack of enthusiasm. Just remember that there is a distinct difference in physics between dirt and hard asphalt. Best of luck to you.

Guys, we need to be more understanding when dealing with newbies if we are to grow this forum and the sport as a whole. Instead of heavy handed sarcasm which helps no one and either forces the newbie to be defensive and stick to their Super Sport guns or to go elsewhere, perhaps we need to try a gentler and more intelligent approach. Just my two cents.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:09 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Sorry Livefree. That pic should have been post #2, but I didn't get here quick enough.
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Oh yeah bunch of assholes here. But there are enough guys that give great advice and that's why I'm here.
I see how this guy takes the negative sh*t very well and for that, I say you're mature enough to ride anything you choose. Just catch up the skills to a 750 and you're golden.


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What do you guys think about a GSX-R750 for a first bike? I would like to spend under 7k.
i think it's a terrible idea. i think the sv is a MUCH MUCH better idea. i'd stick with the sv650, tho. sure, you've been riding mx for a while, but a street bike is a totally different animal and it hurts a LOT more when you fall off. well, i guess i should say, it has a lot more potential consequences when you fall off...


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Hey Live Free....welcome to the forum !

Have you considered a Suzuki GS500 ? It looks similar to the GSXR but is a little easier for your first street bike.

Good luck on making your decision....please let us know what you decide on !


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Hey all!

I thought I'd fill you all in on what I have been thinking lately and some decisions I've made. I'm currently looking at four bikes, the SV650, the Ninja 650R, GSX-R600, and the Ninja ZX-6R. I am leaning toward the SV650 and the 650R but those Super Sports are amazing. I'm heading down to a local motorcycle shop where my friend works, and where I bought my dirt-bikes. I plan to ride each of these bikes, and see which I feel the most comfortable on. Ultimately it will be a matter of if I can trust myself on a SS, and if there is even a slight doubt I won't be getting a SS. Although I'm about 80% sure I will be getting a SV650.

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If do get a SS, the ZX-6R would be my choice. Preferably a 2009 model year.

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Hey all!

I thought I'd fill you all in on what I have been thinking lately and some decisions I've made. I'm currently looking at four bikes, the SV650, the Ninja 650R, GSX-R600, and the Ninja ZX-6R. I am leaning toward the SV650 and the 650R but those Super Sports are amazing. I'm heading down to a local motorcycle shop where my friend works, and where I bought my dirt-bikes. I plan to ride each of these bikes, and see which I feel the most comfortable on. Ultimately it will be a matter of if I can trust myself on a SS, and if there is even a slight doubt I won't be getting a SS. Although I'm about 80% sure I will be getting a SV650.

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Hey all!

I thought I'd fill you all in on what I have been thinking lately and some decisions I've made. I'm currently looking at four bikes, the SV650, the Ninja 650R, GSX-R600, and the Ninja ZX-6R. I am leaning toward the SV650 and the 650R but those Super Sports are amazing. I'm heading down to a local motorcycle shop where my friend works, and where I bought my dirt-bikes. I plan to ride each of these bikes, and see which I feel the most comfortable on. Ultimately it will be a matter of if I can trust myself on a SS, and if there is even a slight doubt I won't be getting a SS. Although I'm about 80% sure I will be getting a SV650.

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If do get a SS, the ZX-6R would be my choice. Preferably a 2009 model year.
Cool to see your keeping your options open! I've always said it's best to try to ride bikes before you buy them. You'll be able to make a lot better decision as far as which one you think you will like the most. Though not to be a party pooper if you can't trust yourself on a GSXR600 a SV650 or 650r will be no different. Only difference as far as what might happen if you are immature will be 1 will get you to 0-100 split second quicker. If you can't trust yourself on a GSXR600 you shouldn't be getting a 650 twin either.

That said...If you can please post up what you think of all the bikes. I would be interested to see what a first timers experience is like. Stuff to keep an eye on will be engine (twin vs inline 4), Front brakes and overall handling/ease of riding on the street. Suspension is another big diff between those bikes but you may not notice that on a demo ride.

I put about 30,000 combined miles when I had both a SV650 and a Supersport at the same time and the differences are notable.
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