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Default Sv 650 for first bike take 2 lol

I know there has been treads about this but i stil want to hear some opinions about my personal case.

I' m a 34 year old 6'1 200 pounds man. I v worked in the army as A MSE OP (DRIVER) . I ve driven allmost anything that has weels in the army. Big trucks , jeeps, troop transport, boats etc... I owned a scooter from the age of 14 till 16 then baught a car and been driving ever since.

I ve never really driven a sport bike but have driven a 250cc motocross, 4 wheelers, snowmobiles etc...

I ve been researching motorcycles for a while now and spent several weeks if not months reading reviews and watching videos about :

Ninja 650r (don't like the bike)
Gsx 650F (don't like the bike either)
VFR 800 liked it
katana 600 - 750 (hate de look)

and all those other midget bikes that are the 250 cc .

I don't want to disrespect 250 cc but honestly I don't see my self on one of those. I m allmost certain I would feel top heavy on those little things.

I ve sat on one and felt like I was on a pocket bike .

The only bike that I really like everything about so far is the sv650 full fairing. It has a sexy look. sounds great and looks like an ok sport touring bike (more on the sport side) witch i m ok with.

I would like to have your opinion on this. I m not a crazy person that loves high speed.. Proof of that . I just purchased a grand touring snowmobile lollll . All my friends said I m gay loll but I like confort and long rides. I just like the rush of the 0 to 50 mph

Neways, I would Like to know what you guys think of me starting on a sv650.

I would like to invest on my bike to make it my own and personalise it a little as time goes on .

Don't want to by a bike and change after one season.

Thanks in advance .

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Yes, you have convinced me you're a special snowflake, get the SV650.

Actually, tl;dr past the 2nd line, which was nothing more than the usual "I'm a special snowflake", get the SV650.

But that doesn't matter, you know which one is the right choice and which ones aren't... You've already made up your mind, so you're just looking for validation. Get the 650.
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I'm not a Ninja 250 bandwagon member, although I own one and it's a fun little bike. I think the SV is the outer limit of acceptable beginner bikes. Get it. Have fun. Good luck.
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haha didn't really expect to get the special snow flake title at all . But you are totally right that I kind of made up my mind. I live in the country and will def . take my time to learn the bike and work on lots of slow speed manoeuvres . thanks taugh ( Süsser Tod )
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thanks for advice jim
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I would say YES... go for the SV650 and enjoy
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thanks pacman. Will do so. Now only have to find one for april. I m kinda sold on the full fairing 2003 and up silver color or full black .
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FYI the 03 is slightly different then the 04+. It runs richer from the factory and gets a little worse MPG. Also some parts like exhuasts, subframes, rearsets are not compatible.


The SV isn't the best choice for a beginner and I'm glad i was able to start on something more tame, but you could do A LOT worse.
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I thaught the 03's and up where all the same. Any other differences between all of them ???? until 2006 . Cause mine will be between 2003-2006 ?
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03 had some 1st gen some 2nd gen parts. 05+ have black frames. 07+ have 4 spark plugs not 2
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I thaught the 03's and up where all the same. Any other differences between all of them ???? until 2006 . Cause mine will be between 2003-2006 ?
2003 650S and 1000S are the redheaded stepchildren of the SV series. All body parts are the same on 2003+ nakeds and 2004+ "S". In 2005 all of the SV series got the black frame treatment, no updates on the 650s, the 1000s got some upgrades in the engine and engine management. In 2007 650 got the dual sparkplug engine and it was the last year for the 1K.
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Ok, so if you don't like the 250, go for the 500.

Then you can switch to the 650 if you want after a year, or a 600 cc bike after two years.

The problem is that the bikes with more torque are going to have much twitchier throttles, particularly in lower gears. A slight twist tells the bike to accelerate ASAP. IIRC, the VTwins have got a LOT of lower torque. This is going to be tougher to manage as a newer rider.

My first bike was a Ninja 250. I was also 160/5'11". Best decision I ever made; rode the hell out of that bike. Worked great in crowded NYC streets.

I am not going to tell you that you'll kill yourself on a 650. It's got more qualities in common with a 500 than a 600. But I think you're going to learn more and learn faster on a 500. You're going to be less worried about the throttle and more worried about dealing with other cars, handling curves, etc.

The bike is an accessory. Be the best rider you can be. Go with the 500.

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There's a reason 250s and 500s are so highly recommended to new riders... Those bikes are beginner bikes. It doesn't matter how old you are or how many different army vehicles you've driven, you're still a beginner.

I'm about the exact same size as you, started riding in my late twenties, and even came from a dirt background, and started on a 250. Best decision I could have made in my short riding career. That small bike really helped me learn quickly, and I was never afraid of the bike or what it could do.

There are certainly far worse choices than a 650 twin... But why not go with a bike that will give you the best chance at learning how to be a good rider?
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I started on a ex250, but I don't the sv is a horrible bike to start.
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If you just want something to cruise on I'd stay way from any sportbike. The SV is VERY fun in the canyons, it is lack luster on the freeway. I don't know why people suggest it as a touring bike, even with helibars a bigger smoother engine would make for a better cruising bike.

I think the SV 650 is a fine starter bike, I don't know why all this talk about crazy torque. It's a very predictable and no nonsense, no surprises motorcycle. I've had mine for 5 years, ride it year around rain or shine, it's given me no troubles, cheap tires, easy on the tires, easy on the chain, good on gas. If you crash on an SV650 because its 'too much bike' you're going to crash on anything. It is not a difficult bike to ride. My very first motorcycle with no prior experience, taught my brother to ride with it too. We are not special by any means, Just not retards.

Common complaints with the SV are the soft suspension and mushy brakes.
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