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Old 11-24-2012, 11:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Lovin my Arai helmet thanks again fellas...thanks to helmetharbor.com too!!

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Old 11-24-2012, 11:43 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Dot test for helmet cracks from drops.

Snell is puncture testing.

Unless I'm horribly mistaken.

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I vote for semi-horribly mistaken.

http://www.smf.org/standards/m/2010/...al_booklet.pdf

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Semi? That's being generous.

I encourage anyone in the market for a helmet, or dishing out advice, to read up on the current standards and testing. There are many misconceptions going around even in motorcycle media outlets based on old standards and statistically insignificant tests.

That said, I don't think any standard is perfect. It's a data point.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:05 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Was looking at getting some riding gear the other day and came upon this...Firstgear Rush Textile Jacket - The Helmet Harbor, LLC. What do u guys think? They have a local store so def have to try it on. Thanks
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:12 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Ended up buying the Firstgear textile jacket from HelmetHarbor.com! I found a discount code online "discount8" and it gave me an 8% discount on top of the discount so ended up saving quite a bit...I posted a link and want to see what you guys think.......Firstgear Mesh-Tex Jacket (Men's & Women's) - The Helmet Harbor, LLC. It is textile/mesh so hopefully keep me cool in the AZ heat

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Better than no jacket at all. Textile is good, but I wouldn't trust my skin to mesh. I used to have a jacket that was mesh with leather on the parts most likely to make contact with the ground. That was a cool concept and I'm surprised more manufacturers don't do that. Do you have pants? Riding boots? Gloves? If not, get them ASAP.
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I did have an ECU-rated helmet (Shark) fail tech at a local drag strip where they specifically required SNELL, but it hasn't been an issue for trackdays.

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Why did it fail tech? Just because it was ECE 22.05 and not Snell and they don't know enough about the other ratings to make a good judgement or something?

I bought a Shark RSi. They are not snell rated, but they are DOT and ece 22.05, and in terms or protection they are right up there with the Shoei's IMHO.

To the OP: I have had some people tell me "well DOT is DOT is DOT, so any DOT rated helmet will protect the same" - I disagree (at least in theory). DOT is a *minimum* requirement. If 2 helmets passed it, 1 may have passed barely and the other may have passed with flying colors and then some. But they both get DOT rated.

I believe that one of the Scorpions was the least expensive DOT/Snell 2010 helmet out there. But you HAVE to try them on.

Go to a store. I thought I would be a round oval, like most people. I was VERY surprised to find out that I was a long oval/narrow. Some run small, some run large. For example I first tried on the Scorpions. Not only were they too round for me, but they also run small. The helmet I have is a Large. I had to put on an XL in scorpion to even have it come down completely over my chin! I was also a regular old Large in the Arais and Icons as well. My Shark fits me great. I believe that there is a sticky in the gear forums here about buying a helmet and it has advice on how to fit one.

Odds are (depending on your state I guess) al helmets will be DOT minimum. So figure out what shape you are. Then figure out what helmets are in the shape (in my example, all of the Scorpions were too round for me. The Arai's were either perfect or too round. The Shoei Qwest was too round, but the RF1100 fit (IIRC). Funny thing is before I got my Shark I heard some say they ran small (not true) and that they were a round oval (also not true, at least not the RSi).

Find the bunch of helmets that are the right fit. Then figure out what feature you like/want. Then between them figure out what is in your budget and buy the best that is in your budget.

EDIT: NM. You got one already. Congrats on the Arai. Awesome helmets.

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Why did it fail tech? Just because it was ECE 22.05 and not Snell and they don't know enough about the other ratings to make a good judgement or something?
They knew. It wasn't a judgement call they could make - the rule explicitly says Snell. Rules haven't caught up with certification changes.

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Was looking at getting some riding gear the other day and came upon this...Firstgear Rush Textile Jacket - The Helmet Harbor, LLC. What do u guys think? They have a local store so def have to try it on. Thanks
Is the helmet harbor store still open on Guadalupe? I thought they shut their doors over a year ago?

I bought a Shoei from them back in '08 and liked their prices and the owners.
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