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post #31 of 50 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 11:44 PM
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I dont understand why any of you think that an R6 isnt a good starter bike... i own an 02 R6 that i bought from a girl (who by the way is 5'5" 125lbs soakin wet with her boots on) and i love it, i also have a Repsol and my baby which is a ducati 848 , and my first bike was a GSXR 750... as long as you respect the bike you can learn on almost anything.... nowadays with these new bikes like the CBR RR 1000 that you can electronically adjust the power to perform like a 600 i think more people should look into that route, because 9 outa 10 people who bought themselves a 600 for thwir first bike got bored of it after a year. I agree that the R6 Is a beast of a 600 (with the right rider) you can easily hang with the big boys... i have a little work done to it and i have smoked 750's with no problem. All i have done to jt is that sprockets (low end) and full exhaust, jetted card, and of course the best mod of all... ME RIDING IT. I have taken it to the track and it has never ceased to amaze me just how great that bike rides. So in my opinion GO FOR IT ! dont listen to these guys they sound like over protective moms telling there kid he cant have a BB gun cuz he'll shoot his eye out (you'll shoot your eye out! Ahh classic) just learn how to ride slowly and be confident yet cautious. Then when your comfortable riding spend some time at the track and I promise you that you will learn how to make a 600 or a 750 have that bike doing what its designed to do!!!

The CBR1000RR doesn't have adjustable power modes and never has. Nice troll.

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The CBR1000RR doesn't have adjustable power modes and never has. Nice troll.

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Even if it did... would YOU put a new rider on an SS1000, which does have adjustable power modes?
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This thread is so old I do not even remember making it. And gosh lord almighty I was such a noob last year.

On the brighter side of things, some junior Marine who has never rode a street bike only dirt bikes asked me about a first sportbike he should get and talked about getting an R1. Boy oh boy that was a long hour and a half discussion i had with him about what bikes to consider and what not to consider. I remember how I was when i first came here and how I was focusing more on what bike would fulfill what I was looking to do. So with this guy i didn't tell him what bike he should get, instead I asked what he was intending to use a sportbike for and explained which types of sportbikes are better for what situations.

Among that, i explained about how each bike is different, each class is different, the common talk among riders & squids and even what to keep focused on when looking and researching a bike. Overall, he went from an R1, to a GSXR600, to a 750 down to i think an SV650. Also talked to him about proper gear, how to test what gear fits and how to go about buying them. It actually felt good explaining these things to someone who had no idea and possibly saving them from a horrible decision.

Could he still go out and get a bike that is to much for him? Yea probably, but at least I know that i attempted to educate him first,

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This thread is so old I do not even remember making it. And gosh lord almighty I was such a noob last year.

On the brighter side of things, some junior Marine who has never rode a street bike only dirt bikes asked me about a first sportbike he should get and talked about getting an R1. Boy oh boy that was a long hour and a half discussion i had with him about what bikes to consider and what not to consider. I remember how I was when i first came here and how I was focusing more on what bike would fulfill what I was looking to do. So with this guy i didn't tell him what bike he should get, instead I asked what he was intending to use a sportbike for and explained which types of sportbikes are better for what situations.

Among that, i explained about how each bike is different, each class is different, the common talk among riders & squids and even what to keep focused on when looking and researching a bike. Overall, he went from an R1, to a GSXR600, to a 750 down to i think an SV650. Also talked to him about proper gear, how to test what gear fits and how to go about buying them. It actually felt good explaining these things to someone who had no idea and possibly saving them from a horrible decision.

Could he still go out and get a bike that is to much for him? Yea probably, but at least I know that i attempted to educate him first,
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Very true, I will always have a lot more to learn. But at the same time that just means there is more to look forward to with riding.

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Even if it did... would YOU put a new rider on an SS1000, which does have adjustable power modes?
Yes. But I don't really like people very much.

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The R6 is by far the best starter bike out there. A little known fact about these bikes is that with the 2006 stylistic changes came a technology that's been a taboo around these boards as it goes against all the advice people on SBN like to give. This is Yamaha's best kept secret if you will. As of 2006 the R6 comes with a special respect sensor that's capable of adjusting the engine and suspension output, tire traction and front wheel angle based on the respect that the rider feels toward their R6 at any given time. Just twist the throttle, show some respect and let the R6 take care of the rest.

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Yes. But I don't really like people very much.

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My boy, new rider, just bought himself a brand spankin new 2012 R6. lol
To be fair, he was going for a GSXR but they denied him on financing. I know there is also that NEW BIKE issue but with respect to what a freaking beast R6 is, it really doesn't do much on low rpm city riding. pretty boring ride to me. The power is in the higher rpm. Added to that, he respects the machine and he rides very very conservatively.
I agree with beginners starting small but at the end of the day, you should ride what pleases you. As long as you're not a dumbass, you'll be fine.

I learned on a GSXR 600 and my first bike was a brand new Stryker (1300cc beast of a cruiser). Everyone told me how I'm gona drop it, this and that, but I've had it for a year and baby is still sexy as F**K, shiny and in one piece, got me some girls too.

After a while, even riding the '07 gixxer and also had an '07 R6S for a bit, I realized that I need to re-start with a small bike to become a great rider. I've ridden all bikes pretty hard and never gone down but I now know that I've been a lucky son of a B.

I think it's really what you want out of riding that makes the decision. If you just wanna look cool, get girls, and do a little recreation, why not, get the baddest thing u can pose on.
My goal has evolved to becoming pro and for that, I'm swallowing my ego and going for that Ninja 300.

I'm not promoting new riders buy a brand new supersport, but I'm saying it depends on what you intend to do with it.

Wishing safe ride to all new bikers!

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My boy, new rider, just bought himself a brand spankin new 2012 R6. lol
To be fair, he was going for a GSXR but they denied him on financing. I know there is also that NEW BIKE issue but with respect to what a freaking beast R6 is, it really doesn't do much on low rpm city riding. pretty boring ride to me. The power is in the higher rpm. Added to that, he respects the machine and he rides very very conservatively.
I agree with beginners starting small but at the end of the day, you should ride what pleases you. As long as you're not a dumbass, you'll be fine.

I learned on a GSXR 600 and my first bike was a brand new Stryker (1300cc beast of a cruiser). Everyone told me how I'm gona drop it, this and that, but I've had it for a year and baby is still sexy as F**K, shiny and in one piece, got me some girls too.

After a while, even riding the '07 gixxer and also had an '07 R6S for a bit, I realized that I need to re-start with a small bike to become a great rider. I've ridden all bikes pretty hard and never gone down but I now know that I've been a lucky son of a B.

I think it's really what you want out of riding that makes the decision. If you just wanna look cool, get girls, and do a little recreation, why not, get the baddest thing u can pose on.
My goal has evolved to becoming pro and for that, I'm swallowing my ego and going for that Ninja 300.

I'm not promoting new riders buy a brand new supersport, but I'm saying it depends on what you intend to do with it.

Wishing safe ride to all new bikers!
If you want to "go pro" (I'm assuming you mean in racing?) I'd recommend the ninja 250. May be sketchy trying to race the 300 in the 250 classes.

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What are the steps to becoming a pro?

I'm guessing you start out at local track ?

Always wondered how to be a pro motorcycle racer.
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While I'm no pro (just beginning my racing career next year), here is what I've figured out.

1. Start off at track days. Get up to a pace to where you can justify the racing expense.
2. Get your race license (for you, it would be the CMRA, which is also where Spies and Edwards got their start).
3. Race as a novice until you win some championship and get bumped up to expert (I'd recommend waiting until you win a championship, or at least being competitive for one. otherwise petition)
4. Race as an expert until you can place in the top 10 consistently.
5. Go privateer AMA and pray that someone will pick you up someday.

Pretty much that plus a lot of money. Realistically, from what I've seen, unless you're pro by age 30 your chances of actually not privateering AMA Pro are very low. Ty Howard was saying how the reason he doesn't race AMA Pro anymore is because all his winnings he got from CMRA (he wins pretty much the expert championship in superbike a everyyear) are all lost privateering in AMA.

PM me if you want info about some track days in TX

, this is just a general idea, not an absolute way of doing it.

To provide an example, these are some experts, but not pros


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While I'm no pro (just beginning my racing career next year), here is what I've figured out.

1. Start off at track days. Get up to a pace to where you can justify the racing expense.
2. Get your race license (for you, it would be the CMRA, which is also where Spies and Edwards got their start).
3. Race as a novice until you win some championship and get bumped up to expert (I'd recommend waiting until you win a championship, or at least being competitive for one. otherwise petition)
4. Race as an expert until you can place in the top 10 consistently.
5. Go privateer AMA and pray that someone will pick you up someday.

Pretty much that plus a lot of money. Realistically, from what I've seen, unless you're pro by age 30 your chances of actually not privateering AMA Pro are very low. Ty Howard was saying how the reason he doesn't race AMA Pro anymore is because all his winnings he got from CMRA (he wins pretty much the expert championship in superbike a everyyear) are all lost privateering in AMA.

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I remember watching this show on the discovery channel I think. It was about the privateer racing in AMA I think. And from the way the show portrayed it, it was pretty tough, and money is the biggest issue.

I can't remember the name of the show though. Mannnnn. Financial wise he seemed to be doing alright. He had a nice house in the show and had an escalade. It was a cool show, but I quit watching it. I wish they would replay the show!

In the future, I'd like to have an older 250 and race on the track with it.
Right now I'm trying to fin a cheap bike I can commute on that I like too. Haha. I'm too picky!

Ill send a pm, I for sure wanna look into going to the track in the future. I've wanted to do that for a while.

So what step are you at in your road to being a pro? If you don't mind me aski g
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I remember watching this show on the discovery channel I think. It was about the privateer racing in AMA I think. And from the way the show portrayed it, it was pretty tough, and money is the biggest issue.

I can't remember the name of the show though. Mannnnn. Financial wise he seemed to be doing alright. He had a nice house in the show and had an escalade. It was a cool show, but I quit watching it. I wish they would replay the show!

In the future, I'd like to have an older 250 and race on the track with it.
Right now I'm trying to fin a cheap bike I can commute on that I like too. Haha. I'm too picky!

Ill send a pm, I for sure wanna look into going to the track in the future. I've wanted to do that for a while.

So what step are you at in your road to being a pro? If you don't mind me aski g
Well, that guy probably doesn't get money from AMA unless he is winning as a privateer. He probably has some external source of income. It takes a lot of money to race AMA. My friend went and placed 14th when they were at NOLA and just in tires he spent about $3000 (of course, he was running soft compounds on a track where you need medium to hard compound, so he was eating through them). That's not even including the application fee and entry fees.

250s are exceptionally fun. I really am looking at putting together a mini endurance team next year (they're like 6 hour long races with 4 riders that trade out). There's some good deals out there on track bikes, since many are salvaged bikes. Let me know, I can look around on the local track/race forums. Those are the best deals because they already have some upgrades.

No problem. As far as experience goes, next year is my first year racing, I'm just one of the mildly to fast track day guys. Which means I'm still pretty slow :p At the local TX tracks I run about 10 seconds off of times where I would be competitive for a novice championship (I'll be about mid pack when I start next year). At my fastest track, NOLA, I can clock a 2:00 which puts me about 20 seconds from AMA Pro times. I'm a bit faster than this, but since I crashed in October its been messing with my head, so I'm not pushing as hard.

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