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Old 10-02-2010, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a beginner and about 4'10 I'm just learning and wondering what the best bike for me would be. I'm about 80 lbs. My friends with bikes keep telling me a GSX-R600 or a Ninja 650. I dont want one of the smaller 250 or 500 ninjas. I want something with a little more power.
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Why do you think you need something with more power? Have you ridden as a passenger on a 600 with someone who really opened the bike up? Do you really think you're going to be comfortable at any point in your first season riding to fully open the throttle at 8000 rpm and above where the bike really starts to make power? And whats the point in having it if you're not even comfortable enough on the bike to use it?

The best reason why you should start on a 250 is because you weigh absolutely nothing. I'm a 180 lb fairly strong guy, started on an older 600 and there was half a dozen times in my first season that it took all my strength to not drop the bike when i leaned the wrong way doing low speed stuff.

Both the ninja and SV 650 bikes are fantastic bikes, but they weigh as much as an SS bike. Once you learn to ride there is no reason that you couldn't get on the biggest heaviest bikes out there, but if you get something that not only scares you but you're dropping constantly you're not going to be having a lot of fun.

My EX had a complex where she had to start on a 600. She got on an F3 did about a dozen or less rides and sold it. She would never admit it, but she was terrifying to ride with and not comfortable at all, which is the real reason she got out of it.

Good luck, the new ninja 250's look like sport bikes btw and are way cheaper to insure. No one would ever give you a hard time for starting on one, i guarantee they'll just think it's badass that you ride. Regardless you should start out by taking the MSF course, where you will have the chance most likely to ride bikes in the 200-250cc range, and can decide for yourself what your comfort range is.

EDIT: reading your post again....i'm starting to think your friends dont like you that much.
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Are you shitting me? Do you know a 600 is a bike that can run easy 11 seconds in the 1/4 mile. Your going to be on your tip toes no matter what you choose. A 250 is going to be your best option, I dunno what your friends have been telling you but they are morons to put your life at risk. Maybe you havn't seen a newer 250?

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These bikes look like 600's and aside from an graphics, any numb nuts who doesn't ride wouldn't have a clue it was a 250. In addition to that, anyone who rides, and is a good rider, is going to see what you have and respect you more for taking the proper steps to learn correctly. I know plenty of girls who have moved up and now ride 600's and 1000's but get your base skill set first. Then move up, and show all your friends who really knows how to ride, and not just look kewl standing next to the bike. Just my 2 cents.
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My advice would be to get new friends if they're telling someone who weighs less than my dog to get a GSXR as a first bike.
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thanks for the advice (: my best friend has a GSx-R600 and it lowered as low as she can get it. I'm learning how to ride on that, and i have a difficult time riding it. thats why i posted this :/ i want something with a little power because i used to ride motocross and had been told that the 250 isnt as great, but thanks for the help
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Oh that is good that you rode motocross, gives you a slight advantage over most new riders, and also hinders you a little bit, certain things change, like dirt to road and putting your feet down vs not putting your feet down in times of danger or quick cornering. The 250's still hall balls, they can still do upwards of a 100+ mph with a 180lbs man on them. They are still faster than the average car. And if you want to learn correctly, and not just be a person who rides their bike to bike night and then stands next to it. If you want to be someone who can get in the corners and waste people on bigger bikes, start small. You can buy a used ninja 250 for 1500, riding for a year and sell it for 1500. These bikes retain value like no other.
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thanks for the advice (: my best friend has a GSx-R600 and it lowered as low as she can get it. I'm learning how to ride on that, and i have a difficult time riding it. thats why i posted this :/ i want something with a little power because i used to ride motocross and had been told that the 250 isnt as great, but thanks for the help
How proficient are you on a motocross bike? I started with no experience and find slow speed stuff on a big bike to be by far the most difficult. Lowering a bike sucks, it screws with the geometry and you run out of ground clearance in a hurry.

If you want to be a badass rider your best bet is to spend a season on something small, and learn how to only put 1 foot down when you come to a stop. The 250 is slow, no two ways about it and you will definitely a couple months in be starting to get that itch for something with more power. Think about it this way tho, if you start on a 250 or 500 and can get super comfortable on it in a month or two, you can start doing track days or advanced courses and learning how to become a proficient rider. At the end of your first season sell it for close to what you bought it for if you buy used, move up to either a 650 or 600 and be able to ride circles around guys who have more then twice the riding experience you do.

The other option is to start on a 650 which might take you months to get comfortable on, so by the end of your first season you're just starting to move on to more technical aspects of riding and going fast.

If you pay your dues now you're going to have people eating your dust way sooner.
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Oh that is good that you rode motocross, gives you a slight advantage over most new riders, and also hinders you a little bit, certain things change, like dirt to road and putting your feet down vs not putting your feet down in times of danger or quick cornering. The 250's still hall balls, they can still do upwards of a 100+ mph with a 180lbs man on them. They are still faster than the average car. And if you want to learn correctly, and not just be a person who rides their bike to bike night and then stands next to it. If you want to be someone who can get in the corners and waste people on bigger bikes, start small. You can buy a used ninja 250 for 1500, riding for a year and sell it for 1500. These bikes retain value like no other.
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stock wise....f4 has a lower seat height. and lighter at least compared to my zx6 and my SV i had
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4'10"?

Jeez, that's going to be tough. My wife is 5'2" about 120lbs, and she can hardly fit on anything. She started on a 250R that we had to lower, and now her Street Triple is lowered as far as we can go without sacrificing sportability, and she's still on toes.
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4'10?


In all seriousness starting on a 600 at your size and weight is retarded. If you MUST, go with a 500. A 250 would be a great choice for a first bike for someone your size. Also, your friends are retarded.
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HONDA shadow vlx or you will drop it before 100 miles and this will have more handling and power than you'll use in the first 2 years easy (unless your douchebag friends coax you into buzzing cars on the highway and running from cops) sportbikes all have high seating this cruiser is one one the low ones. I taught a girl who was 5'1" and she picked this because it was the most confidence building. I road a nighthawk 250 for my first 4 years. Get an ok bike and when you are a great rider then you get a bike that is designed to be piloted by a god. When are you are great rider? when the cost of the tires you have gone through could have bought a brand new bike you might be almost half way there.
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HONDA shadow vlx or you will drop it before 100 miles and this will have more handling and power than you'll use in the first 2 years easy (unless your douchebag friends coax you into buzzing cars on the highway and running from cops) sportbikes all have high seating this cruiser is one one the low ones. I taught a girl who was 5'1" and she picked this because it was the most confidence building. I road a nighthawk 250 for my first 4 years. Get an ok bike and when you are a great rider then you get a bike that is designed to be piloted by a god. When are you are great rider? when the cost of the tires you have gone through could have bought a brand new bike you might be almost half way there.
Why the hell would you tell her to start on a cruiser when she wants a sport bike? i dont care how small she is, go take the msf then decide for yourself where your comfort level is.
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I would likely beat you through the twisty backroads on a vulcan 750 from 1986 with you on your 06 zzr. Ss to why a cruiser, its the skill not the bike, and sportbikes have much higher seats. If shes learning she needs to be able to have solid footing and msf class doesnt make you taller. whats the seat height on a zzr 30.9" or there abouts, well this cruiser is somewhere around 24.5 and it can be lowered without affecting the handling. Why should everybody pick the most intimidating bike that they might be led to believe they might be able to handle? how about something that will compliment their skill level. until they dragging pegs daily or topping out the top gear why should they buy a more expensive vehicle that cost more to maintain, fix and insure.
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