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Old 06-13-2008, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am currently looking to buy either a ninja 600, cbr 600, or katana 600

Have been researching the ninja 250 and 500 for the past three months and decided not to go that route. Dont like the look, riding position, and sound...sounds just like my yfz450.

I have done research on the ninja 600, cbr 600 and katana 600.

Alot of people have told me that out of these bikes the cbr 600 would be the best choice for me.

Im not going to buy a new bike instead im looking a good used bike..

So if anyone has a bike for sale near shreveport,Louisiana (71115)

Im trying to find 1999-2005 for around $3,500-4,000 any of the bikes i listed or any you guys or girls may think would be a good choice.
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this time of year it'll be hard to find a good bike like the ones listed for less than $4000. i'm not saying its impossible. there are probably some out there for that price range but your selection to choose from will be small. maybe not the color or mileage you wanted.

best time to buy a bike [in terms of price and quantity] is late fall, early winter. maybe you should wait till then....
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Should be easy to find a CBR F4i for 4k... Very capable bike.
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ya, i was thinking of waiting till mid - late august to buy one, going to go ahead and take the msf course so i dont have to take my bike to do the driving portion of the license test.

It doesnt start getting cold down her in louisiana till almost december so not alot of people gonna be selling them down here for a while. Prolly gonna have to drive a ways to pick up the bike

And actually i think im going to start ooking for a cbr f4i , looked them up and read some reviews... seems to be a good solid bike

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You seem to be going from bad to worse in your choices for a first streetbike.
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Perhaps you shouldn't be buying a bike for looks and sound, at least you shouldn't let that make your decision for you. If you do plan on waiting till this fall, you could pick up a cheap 250 or 500 and ride it through the summer to get some experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be a ninja either. It may not be the most aesthetically pleasing bike in the world, but it will make you're future CBR look much better when you don't crash it a week after you buy it because you lack the road experience. And what would you rather do, twiddle your thumbs for the next 4 months and wait for prices to come down, or be riding? If you're truly riding a bike to ride, then you won't mind what it is. Also, beginner bikes hold their value very well, so you wouldn't loose much at all keeping it for only one season.

Check out this thread: *Looking for a beginner bike? Look no further...* Every bike in here would be a better choice then a CBR for a first street bike. Some of them are pretty sexy, as well.
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Perhaps you shouldn't be buying a bike for looks and sound, at least you shouldn't let that make your decision for you. If you do plan on waiting till this fall, you could pick up a cheap 250 or 500 and ride it through the summer to get some experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be a ninja either. It may not be the most aesthetically pleasing bike in the world, but it will make you're future CBR look much better when you don't crash it a week after you buy it because you lack the road experience. And what would you rather do, twiddle your thumbs for the next 4 months and wait for prices to come down, or be riding? If you're truly riding a bike to ride, then you won't mind what it is. Also, beginner bikes hold their value very well, so you wouldn't loose much at all keeping it for only one season.

Check out this thread: *Looking for a beginner bike? Look no further...* Every bike in here would be a better choice then a CBR for a first street bike. Some of them are pretty sexy, as well.
+1...why not pick up a 250 while you wait till the CBRs becomes more available. Then sell the 250 for what you paid and pick up the Honda.
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on anoth3er forum this is the repoonse another member got or the same questin about the cbr f4i thats was recommended to me :

quote : yes we see this question a bit. but you made the answer so much easier by asking about the F4i. in my opinion its a great beginner bike.

quote: last november i took the motorcycle safety class and got my first bike, a 2004 honda cbr600f4i. i had never ridden a motorcycle before. i am 54 and am enjoying riding this f4i. i had friends that thought i was crazy to get an f4i for a first bike but you know what i am enjoying every minute riding it. the best thing about it is that it is extremely reliable. it is a honda. you will not be dissatisfied. good luck and welcome.

quote: She's just about as fast as an 600 rr. well she was faster than the first gen rr in a straight line.

It is good, but i recommend getting an 01 or 02. something around 3500 to 4k. that way if you drop it you won't feel to bad.

WE all recommend bikes like the SV650 over supersport bikes though. they are more forgiving than any 600 ss bike. remeber this little F4i has 110 hp and wieghs 400 lbs. she's plenty quick but still a very stable mount.

quote: I think an F4i is a great beginner bike. That was my first bike in 2002. I had ridden bikes before, but just dirt, which is a totally different element, but any experience does help. DO go to the MSF course if you have never ridden. Just ride with a level head and you will do just fine on that bike. I would also go with a used one to start.

quote: I think an F4i is a great beginner bike. That was my first bike in 2002. I had ridden bikes before, but just dirt, which is a totally different element, but any experience does help. DO go to the MSF course if you have never ridden. Just ride with a level head and you will do just fine on that bike. I would also go with a used one to start.

Now I know their are equal amount of posts out their frowning on getting a 600 for the first bike. The cbr 600 which was recommended, is said to be a sport/touring bike - appealing to me. I would get the style of a sport bike with some comfort -- Gonna use the bike to commute back and forth from school and work due to high gas prices and a truck that loves drinking all my money. Not really got the freinds who ride like bats outta hell since they all ride cruisers.

Taking the msf course next month, and after i get license prolly buy bike and take a couple week to practice in the colleseum parking lot down the road. And yes i'll wait 4 months to buy my bike and be content with my dirt bike for now.
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Then why are you asking since you already made up your mind.

You obviously don't know much about bikes if you're considering a can-0-tuna lol
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I have an F4i and I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner bike. Sure if you're careful you'll be OK, but if you're not careful it will bite you in the ass! In 2002 this was the basis of the factory race bikes.

The F4i is more forgiving than the more current SS bikes, but not by much.

Did you learn to drive in a Porsche? Then why do you think you should learn to ride a on a racebike? At least when you fuck-up in the Porsche you've got steel surrounding you and 4 wheels to keep you off the pavement.

To some extent, your post makes me think you're looking more for validation than actual information. Maybe I'm wrong. Dunno...

Whymista, you just went from a 250 to an F4. What do you think of the difference?
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I have an F4i and I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner bike. Sure if you're careful you'll be OK, but if you're not careful it will bite you in the ass! In 2002 this was the basis of the factory race bikes.

The F4i is more forgiving than the more current SS bikes, but not by much.

Did you learn to drive in a Porsche? Then why do you think you should learn to ride a on a racebike? At least when you fuck-up in the Porsche you've got steel surrounding you and 4 wheels to keep you off the pavement.

To some extent, your post makes me think you're looking more for validation than actual information. Maybe I'm wrong. Dunno...

Whymista, you just went from a 250 to an F4. What do you think of the difference?
Just joined the club today and I too was surprised that the brakes are very linear in feel. I can grab a bunch of front brake to test it and it remains composed.

Now I actually feel like slow speed maneuvers are easier on the F4 vs my 250 especially U-turns. As far as turning I feel more confident taking turns, although I still take them at the same speeds as before so I don't become over confident. I love how easy it is to ride and how fast it is yet honestly its far smoother to me.

On my 250 shifting wasn't nearly as smooth and actually I found it harder to be steady on the throttle during low speeds and in pking lots. With my F4 after just a few hours I don't have that sudden chopping of the throttle problem. Only issue is holy hell does it want to bog and cut out when you are barely moving.

Everything about the bike is heavier but not in a pigish way more in a quality build way. I was amazed also that with all the extra weight that it doesn't feel any less nimble. The yoshi exhaust sounds great too and she hauls ass. Haven't had to get out of third gear really. It has such a linear powerband its easy to control and clutchless shifts are far smoother.

I wonder if I really learned that much on my 250 or if the F4 is really a pretty easy friendly bike. I love her already and don't think I'll be wanting anything else soon. Was kind of odd that other than things happening faster it doesn't feel all that different than my 250.


Thats what I said the day after I got her. Now after getting used to her and finally going on a ride in some twisties I'll say that once you start to get in the upper revs it pulls hard and the front does get light. Also unlike a smaller bike that if you botch a shift from 1-2 nothing bad happens, do it on the F4 and the front will come up quick. I did it on purpose to see how it reacted just in case I do screw up and it will bring it up quickly.

After my ride with tejas today I'd say that it will make you confident almost to a fault if you aren't already aware of your limits. I was at times pushing myself to see where my limits where and had it not been for my throttle control, ability to lean in and know what the bike was saying to me I would have had problems. Simply put I'm a lot faster and confident on her because I learned on the 250 which won't mask your mistakes and is a lot harder to ride fast because the throttle is so abrupt. Its either all or nothing which MAKES you learn to control your throttle or constantly be doing the bucking bronco.

It is actually faster in I think 1st and maybe 2cnd till you get higher up in the rev range so in all actuality you could have more issues learning on this than a cbr600 just because it has more power down low. Don't mistake that for lacking in high end because for the first time I was staying a gear low on purpose so I could get the most out of her and test myself and when you get to that 9k+range you get a little boost and if you don't know how to decipher what the bike is telling you you'll freak when the front gets light etc. It communicates to you much more subtly than the 250 so until you gather skills to know your limits and how the bike tells you you are coming to the limits of her you'll run the risk of dumping it because you don't understand that the tiny shimmy or whatever is the bike saying "slow down fool, lean more, shift your weight etc" and that can lead to trouble
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