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I was just checking out ebay for some frame sliders and noticed some for cheap. I know its generic ebay crap, but is it really important to go with a brand name frame slider? Anybody use the ebay stuff? Can anyone point me in the right direction as to which brands are good otherwise?
I bought mine off ebay, but they were name brand so that probably doesn't help much.
The best advise I'll give you is to stay away from no-cut sliders. They offer next to no protection as they usually break when the bike hits the ground. If you're lucky they don't break off a motor mount when they do break off. I've seen too many stories of expensive repairs needed after no-cut sliders broke during an easy fall.
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It depends on how the no-cut sliders are mounted. I have no-cut sliders on the Triumph, and they worked fine in a lowside at about 80 on the track. The plastic got scuffed, the tank got a dent, and the frame had some very minor scratches, but they held up great and didn't do any damage to anything. The way they are mounted has everything to do with it. They screw to a plate spanning between two solid points on the frame.
Other no-cut sliders have an "L" shaped bracket. Those are likely to bend over and punch the engine in a similar situation.
There are people who won't put sliders on a bike. The logic is they would catch and cause the bike to flip over, making a mild getoff much worse. I have seen it happen, but I have also seen it not happen. My opinion is to put good quality, solidly mounted sliders on your bike, but you have to decide what aspect is important.
For what its worth, Woodcraft are excellent and they are not terribly expensive.
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I've crash tested Intuitive sliders on my sv650. They did their job and replacement parts are reasonably priced. As an aside, swingarm spools also saved the swingarm any damage.
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woodcraft and vortex have always done me well. don't expect frame sliders to save your plastic either. the main purpose is to take the blunt of the impact in the event of a highside or hard lowside and to maybe save you from cracking street plastic if you drop the bike off of the kickstand. swingarm spools are usefull for rear stands but some will snap the tabs off of your swingarm (this happened on my gsxr 1k trackbike). Never use steel or aloy sliders(not the bracket, the actual slider) because they do not give like the polly will. I would cut fairings before I would use the offset bracket but like Gaolee stated, a high quality offset will have two mounting points.
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Just to expand on what sometimes happens with swingarm spools- the tab is bent down hard on my track bike. It looks weird and the tech guys always look at it pretty hard, but it isn't causing any problems I am aware of.
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frame sliders are pretty good and cheap way to protect your plastics from getting scratched from a stand still fall.. If you're moving faster than 5+ mph and lay your bike down its going to break the bolt off.
You can look into Race Rail setup or Crash Cage which will be more effective at higher speed falls.
If you're moving faster than 5+ mph and lay your bike down its going to break the bolt off.
Wrong - I don't know what your experience you have with frame sliders, but it really depends on how the rider and bike go down on the road, road surface, etc.
My Shogun sliders held up great during a relatively slow slide - 30-35mph. These sliders attach at the engine mounts and are bulletproof. The bolt didn't even bend, but approx. 1/4 of the slider was ground down from some very rough asphalt.
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As far as I know most of them are just tubes of delrin plastic so the brand shouldn't really matter. I suppose the quality will vary though. You'll want high quality bolts on them. I got a pair of the cheapo sliders off ebay and one of the bolts wasn't long enough to pass through all the way so I picked up a couple of heavy duty bolts at Home Depot for a few bucks. It cost me about $25 total for the sliders, bolts and hole saw attachment.