Grateful I started slow and took the MSF..first scare

[ajd187]

Fuck off

[metalrat]

??
If I remember correctly. The instructor told us, If we lock up the back.
If possible, come to a complete stop??

I remember the instructor describing the wheels action and the possibility of being thrown.

But I don't recall... Not hitting the front.(cuz the front is used first, so it's already engaged)

You are describing some super motord move... How was your "fruit of the looms" after?

Glad u r all right

Question to the veterans. What should one do when the rear tire is locked up? What are the best options?

[mfrankpdx]

Originally Posted by ajd187

Because I took the MSF I knew to brake with the rear in a quick stop and to let off when it skidded. Had I not known that I would have probably done what most new riders do - grab the front and go over the bars.

Letting off the rear during a skid can result in going over the bars too. You're actually not supposed to do that.

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[LDS]

You are kidding, right?

[hob0]

nope, thats what my MSF course told me. if the rear locks up, keep steady pressure on it until complete stop. if the front brake locks up, thats when you should let off or you could be thrown over.

[Elistan]

According to what I was told during the MSF:
If the rear locks up, if can get out of line from the direction of travel. If you then release the rear brake the rear will sudddenly snap back in line, potentially causing a high-side.

[R1oldguy]

has anyone ever SEEN someone "go over the bars" from hitting the front brake??
im not talking about doing a stoppie either.

a highside is something completely different.

[ajd187]

fuck off

[ajd187]

Originally Posted by mfrankpdx

Letting off the rear during a skid can result in going over the bars too. You're actually not supposed to do that.

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[kevin_stevens]

Originally Posted by R1oldguy

has anyone ever SEEN someone "go over the bars" from hitting the front brake??
im not talking about doing a stoppie either.

a highside is something completely different.

There's a video of - I want to say a 954, but maybe not. Some SS literbike... - out on a ride where the rider panicked at a grade change, grabbed a handful, and flipped the bike very fast and hard. Clearly not trying for a stoppie.

KeS

[LDS]

Originally Posted by hob0

nope, thats what my MSF course told me. if the rear locks up, keep steady pressure on it until complete stop. if the front brake locks up, thats when you should let off or you could be thrown over.

Sorry, I was asking of the OP.

I believe the way they put it in the book is that it's OK to release the rear brake if the wheels are aligned, but releasing it if they're out of alignment can result in a highside.

Look on page 38 (which shows as page 42 of the .pdf):
http://www.msf-usa.org/CurriculumMat...71_noprint.pdf

[R1oldguy]

Originally Posted by kevin_stevens

There's a video of - I want to say a 954, but maybe not. Some SS literbike... - out on a ride where the rider panicked at a grade change, grabbed a handful, and flipped the bike very fast and hard. Clearly not trying for a stoppie.

KeS

hmmm. I would like to see that. Ive locked the front wheel before and Ive had the rear tire lift, but Ive never even come close to going over the bars.

i guess anythings possible

[stryder]

Originally Posted by LDS

Sorry, I was asking of the OP.

I believe the way they put it in the book is that it's OK to release the rear brake if the wheels are aligned, but releasing it if they're out of alignment can result in a highside.

Look on page 38 (which shows as page 42 of the .pdf):
http://www.msf-usa.org/CurriculumMat...71_noprint.pdf

that is true....you have to be very aware of where your ass is when you lock up the rear....I have done it on slick roads, and had the back end come around, then it is a matter of feathering the brake to get minimal traction, to coax it back in line, or grabbing throttle to spin up the rear...either way it is a dicey move...and not a good beginner tool...

OP...glad you learned it well enough to do the right thing at the right time...

[ajd187]

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