Ss?

Feenix566 · 04-10-2008, 05:00 PM

I see you all using this term a lot on here. I assume it means SuperSport. What makes a bike a SS? Is it just any sport bike with 600+ CCs?

stryder · 04-10-2008, 05:09 PM

no...there are a lot of bikes over 600cc that are not SS bikes. Check the manufacturers sites. They list them as SS bikes.

F4sSprintST · 04-10-2008, 05:11 PM

Super sports are designed for the track, and make a few concessions for street useablilty.

There's a new rider here that has detailed how twitchy and sensitive the controls on his R6 were.

NO, size alone has nothing to do with it. A Super Sport is designed to be a very high performance machine for advanced riders

Feenix566 · 04-10-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by F4sSprintST

Super sports are designed for the track, and make a few concessions for street useablilty.

There's a new rider here that has detailed how twitchy and sensitive the controls on his R6 were.

NO, size alone has nothing to do with it. A Super Sport is designed to be a very high performance machine for advanced riders

What are the concessions they make for street useability? (aside from the aforementioned twitchy throttle)

F4sSprintST · 04-10-2008, 05:32 PM

Highly reactive controls in all aspects - steering, braking, powerband geared toward high end big hit

There's a good thread a noob just wrote about upgrading from a 250 to a 600SS, take a read on that

My review of transition from 250R to 600RR (LONG)

I've grown up on bikes, my last bike was an SS and I was fully able to enjoy it, but I was an experienced rider when I bought it, and SS's have gotten even more hard edged since mine.

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Originally Posted by Feenix566

What are the concessions they make for street useability? (aside from the aforementioned twitchy throttle)

Anthonyd5189 · 04-10-2008, 05:37 PM

Basiclly your typical modern day SS bike is a race bike with lights on it to make it street legal. The new R6 has a claimed top speed of 170mph. Tell me when you would ever need to go that fast on the street...answer is that you wont.

kevin_stevens · 04-10-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Feenix566

What are the concessions they make for street useability? (aside from the aforementioned twitchy throttle)

Lights, signals, mirrors, EPA certification, and the ability to run on pump gas.

KeS

F4sSprintST · 04-10-2008, 05:43 PM

Frankly, I find that a specious arguement.

My Corvette will go 176 mph. Have I done that on the street? No, but I'd like to try!

I have maxed out my motorcycle at an indicated 157.4 mph on the street, so I'd be perfectly willing to try for 170 mph.

The top speed arguement is irrelevant, IMO, since you don't have to use it, even if you have it. It's the overall hyper responsiveness that will bite the noob on an SS bike.

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Originally Posted by Anthonyd5189

The new R6 has a claimed top speed of 170mph. Tell me when you would ever need to go that fast on the street...answer is that you wont.

Anthonyd5189 · 04-10-2008, 05:50 PM

No, I agree...I'm just using that as an example of how they are designed for speed, designed to handle and brake well. All things that are necessary on the race track.

Elistan · 04-10-2008, 05:52 PM

And the fact that they can be damn uncomfortable too.

Another thing to consider is that the definition of a SS changes as time goes on. Used to be, the YZF600R and CBR600F3 were the supersports of their days...

emericanchaos · 04-10-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Feenix566

I see you all using this term a lot on here. I assume it means SuperSport. What makes a bike a SS? Is it just any sport bike with 600+ CCs?

basically an SS is a race bike with lights and mirrors. the smallest of these bikes make over 100hp easily and weigh the least of any sport bike.

Feenix566 · 04-11-2008, 09:57 AM

Well, I'll provide a little background about why I ask. I took the MSF course and got my license two years ago. Since then I've been riding my Ninja 500 as much as the weather has allowed me to. I've put about 7K miles on it, and I'm feeling pretty comfortable with it. So I'm starting to do my research and learn all I can about what other bikes are out there, so I can make an informed decision when I decide to upgrade.

Gaolee · 04-11-2008, 11:27 AM

It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you are doing on a bike, assuming you have put a fair number of miles on your 500. A supersport bike will be a bigger transition that other bike configurations, since they have evolved into an extreme form. The ergos are suited for a racing crouch and are not entirely pleasant for street duty. For some time, the Japanese manufacturers made 400cc supersport bikes. They are an absolute blast to ride, because they are small and light, but they aren't a whole lot friendlier than their bigger counterparts if you don't know what you are doing.

mbodell · 04-11-2008, 11:33 AM

SS means super sexy. If your bike isn't an SS, it's ugly.

Feenix566 · 04-11-2008, 12:00 PM

I noticed that on Yamaha's website, they call ALL their sport bikes Super Sport...