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Old 04-07-2008, 08:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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if you push the inside clip on you are just adding additional sterring input ie if your turning right then then pushing on the right clip on will cause the bike to turn in harder ie causing a greater lean angle this is the general theory of counterstering which is how we drive our machines.
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wouldnt pushing the inside clip on around a turn make you lean less or go oppisite way of the turn?
Try it.

Get up to about 20 mph in a smooth, open space, and press on one of the handlebars.

Tell us what happens.

I'll bet you a new Shoei lid that the bike will turn in the direction you press, and that the harder you press, the tighter it will turn.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Ahh the magic of countersteering.
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you can lowside from turning like that? I thought that was only from gravel in the road.
wow that is a wonderful dream to have, only lowsiding because of gravel...
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wouldnt pushing the inside clip on around a turn make you lean less or go oppisite way of the turn?
EPIC FAIL!!!
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you can lowside from turning like that? I thought that was only from gravel in the road.
You can lowside from trying to use more traction than you have available, no matter what the road surface is like. The trick is knowing how much traction you have available.
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I guess i never really practiced that or noticed it to much, i guess ill have to practice more steering input when taking the corners.... yeah im a newer rider, so were you at one time
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Find your favorite curvy, empty road, and work on your turns/leans/lines/ etc, thats what I have been doing, and videoing it from my tank, and I have noticed that I am taking the turns at more lean and at higher speeds, w/o even consciously trying to.
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I guess i never really practiced that or noticed it to much, i guess ill have to practice more steering input when taking the corners.... yeah im a newer rider, so were you at one time
Did you take the MSF class?
They cover countersteering.

YouTube - Slow-speed countersteering
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Yup. Take the MSF, newbies! They walk you through all this step by step. You'll learn it much, much faster than trying on your own on the streets or in a parking lot.
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No...when you push your inside clip on you cause the front wheel to angle out thus casing grater lean angel.
Counter steering.
So pull in the inner clip on to reduce lean angle, push it to increase.
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wouldnt pushing the inside clip on around a turn make you lean less or go oppisite way of the turn?
from what i know, it's actually recommended that you steer with your inside arm. this allows your outside arm to rest on the tank (or to be relaxed in general) thus allowing you to turn tighter and hold your line without fighting with the bars and putting multiple inputs on the bars..

--like i said this is from what i know.. i could be wrong i'm sure someone will jump in to clarify if this is incorrect
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It's the day someone thinks they have it all figured out that they get bitten in the ass.
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