What is throttle control and why is.. - Page 3

Misfire · 03-15-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by binx_19

as quoted from a riding buddy just a second ago "if you have to ask the question you are a fuckin moron."

I suppose that was directed at me since I was the one that asked...

Did you explain to your buddy that the question was asked in the New Rider's Forum where everyone isn't Rossi yet?

Tell your buddy that he is a true inspiration and I hope one day to know as much about riding as he does.

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Goin Ape Nutz · 03-15-2008, 02:13 PM

i'm not going to read the next two pages, because I can probably guess where this conversation went based on the first page.

I think people talk about 'throttle control' when referring to new riders and which bike is more appropriate because of the amount of response throttle commands get when they are inputed. We all know a 250 will react differently to the same amount of throttle input than another displacement motor, and I think it is mentioned when new riders talk about bikes for this reason. A twitch on one motorcycle may produce a moderate increase in speed and power delivery, while a twitch on another motorcycle might produce a quick and increasing delivery of the same.

It is a learned response, and to a degree, something that has to be 'developed' on any new bike you sit on. But, I always thought that was part of the parking lot practice (which I can not advocate enough). I'll often just circle the parking lot over and over to get a feeling for what inputs get what response.

P4PHelddown · 03-15-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bush

That is not throttle control.

Throttle control is being able to react to any situation with the proper amount of throttle input. Road conditions, lean angle, body position, temperature, etc are all factors.

It's not just "around the block" like R1 said. Throttle control is another one of those learned skills that comes with time, miles, and experience.

good stuff here. so can you compare throttle contorl to me against my sti say as best you can. ie: i'm going 60 around a ramp and i need to down shift into 4th release off the clutch so i have some grip and power for merging. i know the exact amount of peddle to push and clutch timing so i don't kill myself. it took me a day to learn stick but a long ass time maybe 25000 miles on my first stick car to know what the fuck i was doing always.

so bush like i said can you compare it for me. are you meaning i need to learn the proper amount of throttle to give it without flying off the bike in certain situations and how do you factor this in with the clutch. thanks

RayOSV · 03-15-2008, 06:55 PM

Throttle is at your right hand, as is the front brake (with 70% of the bike's stopping power), clutch is at your left hand, gear shift is at your left foot, and rear brake is at your right foot. As you come around that on-ramp, your front tire hits a pot hole. Because you're holding the grips a bit too tight, the jolt causes you to open the throttle while also causing a slight loss of balance and direction sending you careening off the ramp to the right.

This is the absence of "throttle control" and also assumes that you're already in the right gear to accelerate and merge into traffic. If you're also trying to downshift at the same time, you might have the added bonus of losing traction on the rear. Remember that you've maybe mastered the ability to use 2 of the controls simultaneously at this point. Add a panic reaction or a greater loss of balance and you might whack open the throttle by accident or grab a fist full of front brake.

binx_19 · 03-15-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Misfire

I suppose that was directed at me since I was the one that asked...

Did you explain to your buddy that the question was asked in the New Rider's Forum where everyone isn't Rossi yet?

Tell your buddy that he is a true inspiration and I hope one day to know as much about riding as he does.

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oh did he hurt your little e-feelings, boo hoo, i thought it was hilarious.

P4PHelddown · 03-15-2008, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by coupe
You must be a slow learner.

Ive never had a problem.

Your wisdom is infinite. You know everything there is to know about riding.

Now I remember why I put you on ignore. The only way your posts could be more worthless is if you actually tried to give bad advice, instead of just doing it without thinking" Posted by Bush

such a nice guy isn't he. real tough on a computer. hey patrick his comment was a pretty harmless one. why don't you chill out and try and help instead of being such an e thug. what a pansy you are. i really tried to get on your good side but you are just looking to reem people. ooooooh you put him on ignore, i bet he is crying.

aquanova · 03-15-2008, 08:21 PM

Throttle control is like the golf swing.

Anybody can hit a golf ball but it takes skill to hit it down the fairway straight every time.
If you don't have control every second on the golf course you can yell FORE!

If you don't have control every second on your bike bad things happen to you.

Misfire · 03-15-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by binx_19

oh did he hurt your little e-feelings, boo hoo, i thought it was hilarious.

Nahh.. My feelings are intact.

Have you ever asked a question in order to get a different perspective or have an educated conversation? Well, that's what was going on here so why don't you head on over to the For Sale Section or perhaps the Cubby Hole where your mental capacity has the ability to "grasp" the concept of the content. Apparently you just aren't up the conversation that was going on here so why don't you let the big people talk.

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emericanchaos · 03-16-2008, 12:32 AM

from driving fast cars i'll say that throttle control isn't just about how much throttle to twist off. you have to factor your surface and how level you are. now with a bike you also have to remember your balance. it's not like you're just going to get pushed into a seat if you take too much.

cardinal thing i keep in my head with bikes is this. you don't have seatbelts and airbags and metal to protect you. when shit happens you're going to the ground. period. 25mph or 75 mph it's going to hurt. as long as i keep that in mind i tend to control myself.

binx_19 · 03-16-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Misfire

Nahh.. My feelings are intact.

Have you ever asked a question in order to get a different perspective or have an educated conversation? Well, that's what was going on here so why don't you head on over to the For Sale Section or perhaps the Cubby Hole where your mental capacity has the ability to "grasp" the concept of the content. Apparently you just aren't up the conversation that was going on here so why don't you let the big people talk.

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this is the big boys room, i thought it was the newbie room. but thats ok you cant take the joke. but i will keep slinging shit, cuz thats more fun.

Goin Ape Nutz · 03-16-2008, 03:28 AM

please get back on track

argue intelligently. find facts to support your argument and definition of the term in question and put forth a good post. This newbie this, your a whiny beotch that detracts from the discussion.

binx_19 · 03-16-2008, 03:43 AM

in case some of you missed it, Throttle Control is the most important skill, it has a direct impact on every aspect of your ride, well almost, it doesnt impact posing. but to stay on subject thanks for reminding me about knowledge, i need to peek into Total Control again before the season starts up. ok where was i, oh yeah why throttle control is important and its impact on every aspect of riding, except posing. now i could graph it up for you, but i dont have that much time, but there is a positive relationship between power and throttle control. as the power of the bike goes up the skill of throttle control must rise up also.

now you think you are a great rider, and know throttle control, BIG MISTAKE. even riders such as Rossi, Stoner(Nickname was crash in 2006), Hayden(all 3)...and so on, exceptional riders, still have crashes, and why you might ask with their exceptional skill? simple even they cannot avoid an unseen slick spot, and yes i know they are traveling at speeds far faster then you will ever hit on the roads, but i am proving a point here. the point is you may think your throttle control is good maybe even great, but shit still happens, and the more powerful the bike the less likely you can save it.

Luvin' Twins · 03-16-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RayOSV

As you come around that on-ramp, your front tire hits a pot hole. Because you're holding the grips a bit too tight, the jolt causes you to open the throttle while also causing a slight loss of balance and direction sending you careening off the ramp to the right.

This was exactly the scenario I was going to describe,along with somebody cutting you off and swerving while having a deathgrip on the bars/clip-ons.

This is all amplified by how much more aggressive the seating position is on an SS bike. This causes a lot of riders, not just new, to ride with their arms locked and not use their legs to support themselves.

bush · 03-16-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by P4PHelddown

such a nice guy isn't he. real tough on a computer. hey patrick his comment was a pretty harmless one. why don't you chill out and try and help instead of being such an e thug. what a pansy you are. i really tried to get on your good side but you are just looking to reem people. ooooooh you put him on ignore, i bet he is crying.

Waaaah. People get called out when they say dumb shit, deal with it.

If you have a problem, take it to PM.

mfrankpdx · 03-16-2008, 02:01 PM

Sorry didn't read the whole thread, but I've always thought about it this way; The less you have to think about your right hand, the more you can focus on turning, braking, road conditions, cagers etc. The throttle on a 250 takes less concentration than a 600 no matter how long you've been riding IMO.