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Throttle control is being able to react to any situation with the proper amount of throttle input. Road conditions, lean angle, body position, temperature, etc are all factors.
It's not just "around the block" like R1 said. Throttle control is another one of those learned skills that comes with time, miles, and experience.
But is it not more difficult to learn proper throttle control on a bike with a much more sensitive throttle? That's kind of what I was getting at... It's harder to learn to properly apply the right amount of throttle on a bike that's more touchy. Add a mistake in any other riding area and this more touchy throttle compounds the problem of the new rider's lack of "throttle control."
Not trying to be a smart ass here, just clarifying. I wrote that first post about 5 min after I woke up lol
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But is it not more difficult to learn proper throttle control on a bike with a much more sensitive throttle? That's kind of what I was getting at... It's harder to learn to properly apply the right amount of throttle on a bike that's more touchy. Add a mistake in any other riding area and this more touchy throttle compounds the problem of the new rider's lack of "throttle control."
Not trying to be a smart ass here, just clarifying. I wrote that first post about 5 min after I woke up lol
Absolutely. It would even be different on two liter bikes of different manufacturer and or model year. Not to mention the difference between a twin and a I4..
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Throttle control is one variable in a multitude of skills required to properly operate a motorcycle. "Road conditions, lean angle, body position, temperature, etc" are not "Throttle control". They are totally seperate conditions and skills. Any one of those could be the cause of an accident or incident even if the throttle control portion was being applied correctly.
They are really all tied together though, don't you think? They all have an effect on each other and learning to manipulate all the controls, master the techniques and proper reactions to everything that happens around you is what takes training, time and miles.
Learning how to open and close the throttle is a small part of it. Learning how much, how little, when and why, often in conjunction with brakes, shifting & body position, in a multitude of different scenarios & conditions is a huge part of the learning curve.
They are really all tied together though, don't you think? They all have an effect on each other and learning to manipulate all the controls, master the techniques and proper reactions to everything that happens around you is what takes training, time and miles.
Yes, I do believe they are all tied together in order to properly and sefely ride a motorcycle but throttle input and "control" is but one variable in the riding equation. I do not consider manipulating "all the controls", as "throttle control". Manipulating the throttle, brakes, leaning, steering, etc.. are all separate functions. Sure they affect one another and the bikes reactions but I don't consider them all together as throttle control.
I read "Throttle Control" a lot without any further explanation. Most of us here understand that controlling the throttle effects more than going and slowing but the term "throttle control" is thrown around so much that I wanted to see what the general census was on its meaning.
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I understand what bush is distinguishing as throttle control, but I think the more overt lack of ability/experience to control the motorcycle is what more people are responding to here.
And what scares the hell out of me are the beginners who BUY a 600SS, DO ride it around out of the powerband, and gain confidence that they can "handle the bike" with absolutely no idea of what would happen if they were at 12K instead of 6K on the tach. An extra downshift at any time may put them in operation of a bike with twice the acceleration they expect.
I see these posts all the time here; "I was riding at 8K instead of my normal 5K, and the bike felt really twitchy. I thought I was going to crash. Is my bike broken?".
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Now I remember why I put you on ignore. The only way your posts could be more worthless is if you actually tried to give bad advice, instead of just doing it without thinking.
Every little kid who has ridden a minibike once or twice understands the natural tendency to grab the throttle tighter when things get out of control. Its a habit that can be broken with just a little practice. But what a lot of people fail to realize is that the throttle controls a lot more of the bike than just how fast it goes.
Depending on how you apply it, the throttle can really effect how the bike rides on its suspension (something LDS just touched upon) and a good rider knows how to use that to his advantage in almost every situation.
Coming up on bump a little roll on can take some of the weight off the front of the bike without greatly increasing the speed if you time it right. You don't have to wheelie to get over something like a 2X4 in the road, just unloading the suspension a little will give the forks more travel and reduce the impact you feel at the bars. (Of course, better NOT to run it over if you can avoid it.)
Rev matching when you down shift lets you be smooth, keep the bike under total control and ready to accelerate again when you want to go. Plus it sounds super cool.
I think Bush has done a good job of pointing about how throttle inputs change depending upon the conditions so I won't go there, but new riders should know that this is where it is easiest to screw up big time with a powerful bike. The fact that power on most hot bikes isn't linear is a complicating factor. A quarter more turn at 3000 rpm gives you a significantly less thrust than one at 9,000.
"Throttle control" has an inverse relationship to one's balls. The bigger one's balls, the less throttle control he has. It's a fact and law of nature.
think if you have every other skill down perfect improper throttle control will ruin your day. think of going into a corner under the power band, you lean hard and just tip over, or you are over the powerband, you lean hard and twitch you wrist and you fly over the bike, now these are extreme examples, but i truly believe throttle control is the most important aspect of riding, it directly influences everything.
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