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trying to decide wheter to buy FZ6 or a Sv650. anyone with experience on either? which is better bike. what about maintenance? lots of interstate commute, don't want to trade up later. give me what ya got!
trying to decide wheter to buy FZ6 or a Sv650. anyone with experience on either? which is better bike. what about maintenance? lots of interstate commute, don't want to trade up later. give me what ya got!
I had an FZ6 and put 5500 miles on it in a summer. No problems. Great riding position for a long commute and has enough get and go when you need it.
FZ is an inline 4 which has a much more extreme power curve...it is not a recommended beginner bike.
The SV650 is a V-twin, much more linear power delivery. Still not recommended for a beginner but it is a much better option than the FZ or any inline 4
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Will the 250 ninja even do 100?
I thought it toped near 88?
if ur into an I4 i say get a 250 to start then get a real ss like a 600rr. because if ur getting a bike that u dont want to upgrade and u like the I4 ur probably going to want an r6 in the future or sumthin and thus have to upgrade. If u like the twin the sv wont do u dirty.
^^^ that is what i was impying ebcause the fz does have a very similiar motor to a 600ss it just doesnt look or feel like one at all (to me). Which changes the expeirence for me but is completely irrelevant if you like the bike's ergos and looks.
That's what I was trying to get across in my first post. They are two different classes of bikes, which neither are recommended for beginners to start on.
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Will the 250 ninja even do 100?
I thought it toped near 88?
trying to decide wheter to buy FZ6 or a Sv650. anyone with experience on either? which is better bike. what about maintenance? lots of interstate commute, don't want to trade up later. give me what ya got!
Purely based on the point highlighted above, the FZ6 beats the SV (either variants) due to its more touring-friendly ergos. The SVS (the faired version) is awesome slicing up the twisties, but can be really tough on the back for long commutes. The naked SV is great around town, but getting beat by the wind can get very tiring very quickly.
I think the difference in power delivery is already well covered by the previous posts, so I shan't delve further on that topic.
Although I own an SV (I was seriously considering the FZ6 prior to my purchase), I feel it is important to offer an unbiased opinion. Please take it for what it's worth. Either way, both are excellent bikes (assuming you have some miles under your belt).
Good luck on picking the right bike for your needs!
I've got an SVS, and my bro has an FZ6. I've ridden both and they're both fantastic bikes. It really comes down to where you want your power delivery, down low or up high? And the FZ6 also has more relaxed ergos than the SVS, so if you're doing a lot of highway commuting and like the top-end hit, that may be the way to go. Not that the SV is slow, but with that I4, the FZ6 will pretty much walk it above 80 mph... not that anyone should be going that fast on public roads!
neither is a better bike, they're completely different.
the FZ6 is ugly too if that helps.
Uhoh you done it now. The FZ6 riders will be after you.
The bikes are different - FZ6 makes more power (100+ horses) and delivers it like a supersport (I think the FZ6 is the old R6 engine, but I'm not sure), while the SV650 makes around 80 and has a more linear power delivery.
They are both very good bikes - the FZ6 is comfortable and a good all round bike according to those who own them - they seem to have a pretty loyal following which, to me anyway, says a lot.
The SV also has a good following and has lots of parts for it - it is essentially unchanged for the last several years. Lots of guys like them for the track because parts are cheap and there are lots of upgrades for them.
For a new rider, neither is recommended - there are easier bikes to learn the basics on (which is what your first bike is all about).
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Third, after 11 pages of I just have to say thanks for the entertainment that you bring to the forum. Without Spil!z we'd all carry on intelligent conversations and never get to see the inner workings of the California justice system.
Uttttt ooo. The FZ6 crew will invade this thread soon. Personally neither the SV or FZ6 are good starter bikes. The SV is more of a town cruiser while the FZ6 is more highway(high speed) oriented. Personally if you had to choose between these bikes base it on what you will use it for. I would choose the FZ6 but my opinion is kind of bias. The FZ6 does have the R6 motor but I believe it has a different cam. The motor still loves to be reved though.
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You shouldn't get either. I've been riding for 3 years and I recently rode a SV650S. They are not slow. They are really peppy and the low end throttle response startled me. ( and I'm used to dirtbikes where you sneeze and you wheelie) I don't see how any beginner could hope to ride one. I had a hard time with it. I'm not saying I'm some fantastic rider, but I am certainly not a newbie. The FZ6, like was said before, has serious balls in the high revs. You may say, "oh, I I will keep the revs low." blah blah blah. Last time I rode an I4 600 it went through the first 8000 revs before I could blink. It scared the piss out of me and if there had been a single car on my side the road I probably would have hit. I was doing 95 indicated in 2nd gear, and I WASN'T trying to go fast, it just happened.
They really are super ballsy bikes and you have no idea what your getting yourself into. Just grab a ninja 250, ride it for 5000 miles, sell It for what you paid for, and then get your sv or fz.
Man there sure seems to be alot of anti-SV lovers here.
Look I ride a SV1000s and there are alot of good points made for both bikes. The SV is more than just an around town cruiser, believe me. A lot of people ride I4's as their personal-around-town bikes and use the SV (650) as their track bike because of the wide-powerband, low-end torque, and flick-ability. I almost bought the FZ6 when I was first looking for a bike but the SV won me over.
If it's your first bike, you will notice the ergos by just sitting on the bike. But truth be told neither are so extreme that whichever you decide to get you won't get used to. Especially being your first bike and being young, you and your body will adapt with no problems.
You should know that Suzuki has stopped making somve of the SV models this year and this will probably continue.
Also you should know that if you really want to take advantage of the FZ's power you will be speeding or driving wrecklessly because that is were the I4's power is located at, in the upper RPM range, not down low like the SV. This means that when you are just cruising around and decide to punch it, more than likely (to get the thrill you are seeking) you will have to down shift and then twist the throttle; unlike the SV where you just twist the throttle and she's off!
Rule of thumb is that with equal riders, the SV will pull most I4's up to speeds between 80-90 mph. After that, it's the I4's world. So at what speeds do you naturally ride.
Beginner bikes? No bike is a beginner bike. The rider is the beginner; the bike already knows what it's supposed to do. As long as the rider rides within their level there shouldn't be a problem (just make sure you're strong enough to pick the bike up). Many have stated though that the SV is more forgiving of operator error than it's I4 counterparts.
I have both, and they're both fun as hell to ride!
I've only ridden the SV on the street a couple hundred miles, it's a track bike.
It's like the others have said, the SV has a lot of grunt down low and the FZ has a lot more top end. It's a lot easier to get up to illegal speeds on the FZ. The SV is a bit easier to ride in stop and go traffic, due to the strong low end power.
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