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08-23-2007, 09:10 PM
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Triumph modern classic bikes?
It seems that no one posts about them, so a part of me is thinking that they are either terrible beginner bikes or arent the type of bike that appeal the average squid.
Im looking at the specs and the only downside i can see is the price. which around 8kmsrp for both of them.
First bike: Thruxton
Reminds me of the old cafe' racers.
Dry Weight 451lbs
Horsepower: 69bhp
Torque: 53ftlbs
Next bike: Scrambler
Dry weight: 451lbs
Horsepower: 56bhp
Torque: 51ftlbs
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08-23-2007, 09:47 PM
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I'd certainly put them on the far side of a beginner bike. Although they are an acquired taste I can certainly seem myself on one in a few years. For sure the seat is friendly to rider and passenger.
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08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
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As a young rider, I can say that they just don't appeal to most young riders. Personally, I don't appreciate a classic enough to put down 8k for it. I'd rather have a flashier bike. Just my .02, though.
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08-23-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mike honcho
As a young rider, I can say that they just don't appeal to most young riders. Personally, I don't appreciate a classic enough to put down 8k for it. I'd rather have a flashier bike. Just my .02, though.
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I never use to like them, but they grew on it. It started when i saw Honda's Dream 50R
However i always thought it was too small and of course, not road legal.
I just wonder if i could find one used.
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08-23-2007, 11:47 PM
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someday when i'm financially stable my stable will include at least the following:
my current SV650S
a 600 or 750 SS for track-duty
a K1200S/Concours or equivalent sport-grand-touring bike
a Thruxton
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08-23-2007, 11:56 PM
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I never use to like them, but they grew on it. It started when i saw Honda's Dream 50R
However i always thought it was too small and of course, not road legal.
I just wonder if i could find one used.
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Honda Dreams are just about the coolest little bike going. They look like little swiss watches when you see them up close. They are the kind of bike I would like to buy just to have on display ion my house as a piece of art.
I've seen the Triumph classic bikes and the Ducati classic bikes and like them both. The truth is I don't really think of them as sportbikes, although they have some sporting capabilities I'm sure, and it doesn't seem likely you will find many enthusiasts who own them on a sportbike board.
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08-24-2007, 12:04 AM
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They are not good begginers bikes. The throttle is touchy. On the other hand it has lots of torque.
I don't think Triumph make good begginers bikes, honestly. If you were starting to ride, I'd suggest a more reasonable Japanese bike, preferably a smaller cheaper one with little fairing.
I test rode most of the Triumphs in the showroom, before I got this one.
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08-24-2007, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tmkreutzer
Honda Dreams are just about the coolest little bike going. They look like little swiss watches when you see them up close. They are the kind of bike I would like to buy just to have on display ion my house as a piece of art.
I've seen the Triumph classic bikes and the Ducati classic bikes and like them both. The truth is I don't really think of them as sportbikes, although they have some sporting capabilities I'm sure, and it doesn't seem likely you will find many enthusiasts who own them on a sportbike board.
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Ducati has classics? Damnit, now i gotta go research them too. 
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08-24-2007, 12:17 AM
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Ducati has classics? Dam nit, now i gotta go research them too. 
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Yes, Ducati has been making bikes for about 30 years or so. A friend has a pair of 250 café racers.
The new "old" bikes look nice and bring back memories, but I doubt they perform all that well especially the chassis. As a novelty, maybe. As a daily rider, no way.
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08-24-2007, 12:23 AM
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Yes, Ducati has been making bikes for about 30 years or so. A friend has a pair of 250 café racers.
The new "old" bikes look nice and bring back memories, but I doubt they perform all that well especially the chassis. As a novelty, maybe. As a daily rider, no way.
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It looks like their only "modern classic" is a 92hp naked bike that vaguely resembles a classic. 
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08-24-2007, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RayOSV
Yes, Ducati has been making bikes for about 30 years or so. A friend has a pair of 250 café racers.
The new "old" bikes look nice and bring back memories, but I doubt they perform all that well especially the chassis. As a novelty, maybe. As a daily rider, no way.
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oh and performance is not the end all thing to me. Chances are if i didnt get one of these, id just pick up a hyosung 250.
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08-24-2007, 12:30 AM
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They do fine as a daily. I don't drive a car. Not uncomfortable. They are not exactly sportsbikes and won't perform like, but they are a pretty nice standards. It does a much better job than some of the cruisers I've ridden.
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08-24-2007, 12:35 AM
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oh and performance is not the end all thing to me. Chances are if i didnt get one of these, id just pick up a hyosung 250.
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Right. They are called naked standards. They look cruiser like in some ways, but the foot position is slightly back and the bars will make you lean forward a little, expecially the Thuxton. They lean a whole lot better than cruisers too.
The Hyosung would be a good start.
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08-24-2007, 02:20 AM
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Why would you spend 8K on a beginner bike that's going to be:
Heavy steering
too torquey
and VERY expensive to repair. Triumphs parts are NOT cheap.
A Thruxton also has very shitty steering lock and leverage at the bars, spotty brakes for it's weight and these are things that make it unfriendly to new riders.
and YES, I have ridden them.
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08-24-2007, 07:32 AM
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Fagin,
All those things are true! I would never recomend these to a new rider, but if you like old cafe style bikes, have the money, and are able to fix your own bike to save money, they are still fun to own.
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