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I was making a right turn off of our main boulevard onto a small road leading to a parking lot. What I failed to notice (it was after dark) was that the road I was turning onto was 2-3 inches higher than the boulevard, so instead of slowing and squaring myself to the ridge, I just rolled through the turn, hitting that ridge at the apex of my turn causing my back tire to kick out and my turn to widen considerably. Thankfully no cars were coming down the other way so I got it back under control and continued on but it sure scared me.
I'm trying to imagine how that would cause your back tire to kick out.
I did nearly the same thing turning (right) into one of the entrances of my neighborhood a week or so ago. They just completed widening one of the main roads that runs alongside it, and that entrance is still higher than the main road. I hadn't come in that way in a while, so I didn't realize there was such a big step up and hit it pretty hard. But it only upset the front of the bike a little, not the rear.
Maybe you were going faster than I was, and/or maybe you were on the throttle when the rear hit it. I wasn't, I think I held steady when the front hit it and didn't change speed or direction until the rear tire went passed it.
Anyway, glad you just had a scare and nothing worse.
Nice lesson learned ...ALWAYS look at the hight of the surface your turning on to. Esp if its a parking lot, or store, they are bad for having cracks , or diff in height , right where the parking lot meets the road surface ...
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Sounds like your front tire made it over fine, so you stayed leaned over.
In a situation like this, straighten up as much as you can. The further you're leaned over, the more your rear will want to step out. Try to slow down, stand up, and make your turn as much as possible before having to go over the edge trap (make your angle as close to 90º as possible)
These sorts of hazards are hard to practice, so you have to be doubly watchful.
Sounds like your front tire made it over fine, so you stayed leaned over.
Exactly.
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I'm trying to imagine how that would cause your back tire to kick out.
I was rolling on the throttle as normal to accelerate through the apex. The front tire went over okay, but the rear kicked out.
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Nice lesson learned ...ALWAYS look at the hight of the surface your turning on to. Esp if its a parking lot, or store, they are bad for having cracks , or diff in height , right where the parking lot meets the road surface ...
I always pay close attention to the road surface, but this time I was watching where the cage I was following was going and took my eyes off the road for a second...won't do that again.
I was rolling on the throttle as normal to accelerate through the apex. The front tire went over okay, but the rear kicked out.
The opposite happened to me, and I didn't go wide in the turn. Interesting....
There are speed humps (as opposed to speed bumps) in my neighborhood, and one of them is in the middle of a gentle curve. Out of curiosity and boredom, I've gone over that one at a few different angles and speeds. I don't slow down for the ones I can hit straight, but that one you almost have to, so you can straighten up as much as possible. It does funny things to the front suspension if you hit it leaned even a little. But I've never had the rear do anything too worrisome. I guess maybe it does step out ever so slightly if I'm going too fast, but not enough to make me change directions.
Sorry, I don't mean to keep harping on it, I'm just really curious about what that must have been like, exactly what caused it, etc. Since I can't see exactly what you rode over and all that, it's interesting for me to try to imagine it the way you described it, and have that result.
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I would never have thought about this until now, better learned through reading that going through it.
there's a confucius saying along the lines of "anyone can learn from their own mistakes, but it takes someone special to learn from the mistakes of others," or something like that.
to the OP, glad you handled it well.
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Sorry, I don't mean to keep harping on it, I'm just really curious about what that must have been like, exactly what caused it, etc. Since I can't see exactly what you rode over and all that, it's interesting for me to try to imagine it the way you described it, and have that result.
Yes, I am easily amused.
It has me thinking about it too. I wish I could desribe it better, but all I know is I made a 90 degree right hand turn in second gear at 10-15 mph, leaned over rolled on the throttle and when I hit that ridge the rear kicked out and I went wide to avoid going over. Maybe that was a bit fast for that turn, maybe not. Maybe I did something I don't remember to alter the direction. I know next time though to go slower and as sqaure as possible.
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Last edited by Little Joe : 06-16-2007 at 11:11 PM.
Press the heel end of your palms against a pane of glass - thats what you're working with on the street under normal rolling conditions (ok so a fat rear tire is bigger, maybe like your palm up to the first knuckles). Suspension tech isn't magic against abrupt 'pops' in the road.
there's a confucius saying along the lines of "anyone can learn from their own mistakes, but it takes someone special to learn from the mistakes of others," or something like that.
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close call tonight
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But I've never had the rear do anything too worrisome. I guess maybe it does step out ever so slightly if I'm going too fast, but not enough to make me change directions. 
