My MSF experience in-depth - Page 2

dolomoto · 03-02-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GUTTERbOY

Wow, it's that big? It sure seemed a lot smaller when I was inside the damned thing.

You outta see my friend Tom do the box with his Goldwing 1500 with sidecar! It's a joy to see, he does the box with FEET to spare.

Yes, the box is HUGE! I think we could get about 10 Kazim Temple motorcycle riders in there...

YMMV

WhoUtink · 03-02-2007, 10:13 PM

Sounds exactly the same as my msf, minus the H-D propaganda. Great wite up. I felt the same way about trying to find out what to expect from the course. And congratulations on becoming a licensed motorcycle rider.

Vappid · 03-14-2007, 02:53 AM

Thanks for the write-up, I can't wait to attend my class, if I can ever find one!

Squid Killer · 05-07-2007, 07:46 PM

Great write up. I hope reading it will take the pre class stress out of some future students. That hurts a lot of my students

UberGoober · 05-08-2007, 07:00 AM

This is a good thread. You've earned yourself a stickie.

mike honcho · 07-14-2007, 11:36 PM

I am taking the HD rider's edge class right now. I thought the same thing the first day. The only thing you're paying the extra 200 dollars or so for is them pimping out their bikes and gear throughout the whole thing. However, I would have had to wait until next year to take MSF without rider's edge. I would have rather had a different bike than the blast to learn to ride on, though. Those things stall so easily, they hardly idle at all. I did get a 50 dollar gift certificate to the store though. It's gonna make a great birthday present for my dad!

mnsport · 08-14-2007, 11:17 PM

Rider's Edge instructors are usually MSF instructors as well. I am an instructor in Minnesota, and I know a few who teach Rider's Edge. They say it's identical to the regular BRC, except they use Buells.

naibaf · 09-28-2007, 08:09 PM

Good to know that the courses are basically the same.
I also am planning on taking the riders edge due to how often it is offered here. The local community college offers the course a good bit cheaper but the waiting list is tooooo longgg.

Thanks for the great write up!

jim schmidt · 09-28-2007, 08:30 PM

Riders Edge is the MSF curriculum with MSF videos recut to feature HD products, a dealer tour, a provided personal journal, and some comical class awards added at the end. Otherwise, it is exactly the same.

I'm also a Rider's Edge certified instructor. If you take an RE class, you'll see your instructors using MSF range cards.

EthansPoppa · 10-11-2007, 01:25 PM

I just completed the MSF BRC last weekend for the second time. The first time was about 10 years ago. I passed it, of course, but that's easy on a Honda Nighthawk 250. I am signed up for the Experienced Rider Course as well next month.

There was one woman, who rode in on a Harley V-Rod, who came to the class both days and seemed to do fairly well, and she failed. Now that's a scary thought. I'd hate to be that lady's bookkeeper, spending $25k on a V-rod and not being able to get your "M" endorsement.

It is my opinion also that 12 is too many people on the range at one time. They should have 5-6 so that everyone can receive specific coaching and there's plenty of time to cover all the material.

Freshgrease · 10-11-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EthansPoppa

I just completed the MSF BRC last weekend for the second time. The first time was about 10 years ago. I passed it, of course, but that's easy on a Honda Nighthawk 250. I am signed up for the Experienced Rider Course as well next month.

There was one woman, who rode in on a Harley V-Rod, who came to the class both days and seemed to do fairly well, and she failed. Now that's a scary thought. I'd hate to be that lady's bookkeeper, spending $25k on a V-rod and not being able to get your "M" endorsement.

It is my opinion also that 12 is too many people on the range at one time. They should have 5-6 so that everyone can receive specific coaching and there's plenty of time to cover all the material.

Yeah. I'm in the position of that lady. I've had 5 months of riding experience without a license with several hundred miles of riding, but I still failed MSF.

The thing I noticed was that it wasn't that the individual exercises are hard, it is the Texas heat in full gear riding 5 hours without much breaks. 5 hours of riding is exhausting on regular and relaxed riding, but to do evasive proceedures and stuff for an hour at a time drains energy. When you get tired, those tiny cones get harded to see on light concrete. Because I confused some cones on the last exercise, I became a "safety risk" and was asked to leave.

Infact, of all the riders at my MSF class, I was the most experienced (none of them had even touched a motorcycle before).

islanderman7 · 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Nice Article. I cant remeber if you mentioned it, but what bike did you use?

Getsome122 · 10-31-2007, 05:44 PM

very good write-up of the course.

iaresev · 01-03-2008, 08:49 AM

I'm excited to take an MSF course in the spring, based on your writeup I'm going to try and get these basic skillz down in the coming weeks though.

My poor Mom, has taken the MSF twice, and has crashed herself quite a few times in it. She was asked to sit out both times :-( Her Honda Shadow Spirit remains unridden :-(

chukyjinn1 · 03-06-2008, 09:04 PM

great write up, i know a lot of guys that have wanted to get into riding and I've always told them to take the class. thanks for the write up.