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Share your stories about subordinates "owning" their superior ranks, request mast and such or just squables.
I didn't witness this but my bro told me about it. He was on a boat in the fleet and orders were comming down about operation shock and awe and he sees this First Sargeant chewing out a grunt Corpral for something or another, as I recall the grooming standards. A Staff Sargeant who has spent 30+ years in the core all combat, got busted from gunny to Private and has since made his way back up is about 15' away watching the whole thing. When the First Sargeant takes a pause and realizes the Staff Sargeant he looks at him and says "What are you looking at?" and proceedes to tell him to shove off. The Staff Sargeant walks up right in his face and asks "HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN IN MY FUCKIN MARINE CORE?!" The First Sargeant says 20 or so. "YOU'RE A FUCKIN BOOT!" says the Staff Sargeant and walks away leaving the First Sargeant aghast, jaw dropped and everything. He left the Corpral and walked off somewhere.
So let's hear about you're superior's antics, incompitence, or just overall abhorance for you commanding ranks.
This was at 29 Palms and I was in my civvies at the PX and right outside I saw the camp Sergeant Major (who I recognized from pictures) walk by another Marine (who's rank I couldn't see).
Well the unidentified Marine said something to the extent of "Excuse me Sgt. Major, I know I'm only a Lieutenant but I do believe I rate a salute from you." The Sgt. Major looked shocked and walked back to the Marine, grabbed him by the lapel and said, "If you want me to salute you Lt. then you might want to put your butter bars on your collar so you dont look like a fuckin Private" And then the Sgt Major walked off.
Apparently the luey forgot to put on his insignia. I've never seen such an embarrased look as that kid looked.
This was at 29 Palms and I was in my civvies at the PX and right outside I saw the camp Sergeant Major (who I recognized from pictures) walk by another Marine (who's rank I couldn't see).
Well the unidentified Marine said something to the extent of "Excuse me Sgt. Major, I know I'm only a Lieutenant but I do believe I rate a salute from you." The Sgt. Major looked shocked and walked back to the Marine, grabbed him by the lapel and said, "If you want me to salute you Lt. then you might want to put your butter bars on your collar so you dont look like a fuckin Private" And then the Sgt Major walked off.
Apparently the luey forgot to put on his insignia. I've never seen such an embarrased look as that kid looked.
I always liked it when someone with higher rank then me would try and pull rank when I would either pull them over or go to their house for some reason. I always had to inform them that I was the one with the MP brassard. lol. Nothing like being junior enlisted and telling an 0-4 he's going to the D-Cell.
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That's why I never envied you MP's. I could only imagine the times you hear that.
The only experience I have is I was deployed to the gulf right before the war started in iraq. We had been sitting pretty close up there and the crypto guys were all getting stressed.
Anyways, the Chief in our shop wasn't really a go getter on his "folks" problems. I finally got fed up with it and went into our shop with pretty much everyone in there, to include our division officer and dept head. I literally blew up on the guy calling him out on not helping his sailors out, his only interest was yapping to this female sailor on another ship and was pretty much useless in so many words.
I have never blown up like that before and was rather shocked I did. Afterwards I was expecting my division officer and dept head to ream me a new one but they actually commended me.
For all the good junior MPs that uses good tact in the performance of his/her duties, there's one that thinks that a badge and a gun makes them the Base CO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's lots of SNCOs and Officers that try to push junior MPs around even though they're clearly busted doing something wrong.
I've ran into quite a few of those "E-3 Generals"...
lol, some of my stories involve people who probably lurk these boards, so I guess I'll have to plead the 5th on some stories.
I had the CMC last week refuse the flumist. I told him tactfully it wasnt an option and that he wasnt eligible for anything else since the shot is for aircrew only. He told me he wasnt getting it so I just said roger that and told my OIC who talked to the CO of the base, now the CMC has to come back sometime today or tomorrow and get it..talk about ackward, it sucks whenever someone refuses something and then has to come back and get it anyways after being "talked" to.
Has anyone encountered the "White Gorrilla" or "Frogman" at Paris Island? My brother told me funny stories about them shoving/spearing people lagging on the runs into ditches and telling them to ride on the Humvee cause they were too pussy to be in their platoon.
This was at 29 Palms and I was in my civvies at the PX and right outside I saw the camp Sergeant Major (who I recognized from pictures) walk by another Marine (who's rank I couldn't see).
Well the unidentified Marine said something to the extent of "Excuse me Sgt. Major, I know I'm only a Lieutenant but I do believe I rate a salute from you." The Sgt. Major looked shocked and walked back to the Marine, grabbed him by the lapel and said, "If you want me to salute you Lt. then you might want to put your butter bars on your collar so you dont look like a fuckin Private" And then the Sgt Major walked off.
Apparently the luey forgot to put on his insignia. I've never seen such an embarrased look as that kid looked.
In a story similar to this, I was on Building and Grounds duty, many years ago and we were pulling the weeds right outside the back entrance to the headquarters build (you know the one where the CO, XO and SgtMaj go in and out of). The SgtMaj pulled up and got out of his car, barely acknowledging the boot Lt who was standing there. The young Lt made a comment to the SgtMaj about saluting officers to which the SgtMaj just kinda grunted something and walked into his office. The young Lt walked in behind him and into the XO's office (remember myself and three other Lance Cooly's were right outside the open window pulling weeds) and told the XO that he thought the XO should know what the SgtMaj just did.
After listening to the young Lt, the XO asked him to shut his hatch (door) and proceeded to string together more derogatory expletives than I had ever heard at that point in my life. I vaguely remember hearing something about the SgtMaj being in Vietnam and seeing more combat than he had ever seen in all the war movies combined followed by how he wasn’t even worthy to address someone a distinguished as the SgtMaj without having someone there to make sure he didn’t F something up. After the screaming (and crying from the young Lt) subsided, the XO made the young Lt go apologize to the SgtMaj for being such an idiot, etc . . .
We had to go to the other side of the building after that because we were laughing so hard and we didn’t want to get in trouble. I couldn’t even look at the Lt without laughing after that.
This is the same day that one of the Lance Cooly’s with us got chewed out by the female Capt who was in charge of the S-4 (and our working party). When he got back he started going off about how, if he was the CO, he would make her shave her mustache (she did have a pretty impressive ‘stache). When we looked over she was standing right behind him. You should have seen the look on his face when she cleared her throat and he looked over his shoulder. I think I might have actually peed myself a little from laughing so hard that day.
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hah well I am an MP worked the roads as PMO and now I'm in a straight field unit(victor unit ftw) and the fresh Marines from the school house think they are the CO(representation wise) bc their NCO's tell them that so they dont get punked out as bad..
Whats even greater when we send the boot Marines to pick up gear for my unit and they ask where is their badge repeatedly LAWL
(those that are slow, we do 2 things. Headed off to a deployment or just coming back from one, no PMO)
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Originally Posted by ghostrider_9
In a story similar to this, I was on Building and Grounds duty, many years ago and we were pulling the weeds right outside the back entrance to the headquarters build (you know the one where the CO, XO and SgtMaj go in and out of). The SgtMaj pulled up and got out of his car, barely acknowledging the boot Lt who was standing there. The young Lt made a comment to the SgtMaj about saluting officers to which the SgtMaj just kinda grunted something and walked into his office. The young Lt walked in behind him and into the XO's office (remember myself and three other Lance Cooly's were right outside the open window pulling weeds) and told the XO that he thought the XO should know what the SgtMaj just did.
After listening to the young Lt, the XO asked him to shut his hatch (door) and proceeded to string together more derogatory expletives than I had ever heard at that point in my life. I vaguely remember hearing something about the SgtMaj being in Vietnam and seeing more combat than he had ever seen in all the war movies combined followed by how he wasn’t even worthy to address someone a distinguished as the SgtMaj without having someone there to make sure he didn’t F something up. After the screaming (and crying from the young Lt) subsided, the XO made the young Lt go apologize to the SgtMaj for being such an idiot, etc . . .
We had to go to the other side of the building after that because we were laughing so hard and we didn’t want to get in trouble. I couldn’t even look at the Lt without laughing after that.
This is the same day that one of the Lance Cooly’s with us got chewed out by the female Capt who was in charge of the S-4 (and our working party). When he got back he started going off about how, if he was the CO, he would make her shave her mustache (she did have a pretty impressive ‘stache). When we looked over she was standing right behind him. You should have seen the look on his face when she cleared her throat and he looked over his shoulder. I think I might have actually peed myself a little from laughing so hard that day.
That's a hell of a good day!
It never ceases to amaze when I hear stories of a O-1 (or even an O-2!) that thinks he can order a Command NCO around. Wtf are they thinking? Even as a O-3 I would be reluctant to demand a salute. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I remember an Airmen basic in Tech school being stopped for not saluting a butter bar. The butter bar demanded the airman to "practice" by saluting him 20 times, while the 2Lt posse was in the background having fun with this.
Poor kid did it, 20 times, pretty embarrassed.
go figure a Major was watching the whole thing from across the street. came over, and informed the 2Lt that out of those 20 salutes rendered, He never returned a salute... mutual respect there bud.
pretty funny when the butter bar had to return all 20.
Its always interesting when you get the young, drunk Lt's in the enlisted club demanding respect... can't we all get along?
I remember an Airmen basic in Tech school being stopped for not saluting a butter bar. The butter bar demanded the airman to "practice" by saluting him 20 times, while the 2Lt posse was in the background having fun with this.
Poor kid did it, 20 times, pretty embarrassed.
go figure a Major was watching the whole thing from across the street. came over, and informed the 2Lt that out of those 20 salutes rendered, He never returned a salute... mutual respect there bud.
pretty funny when the butter bar had to return all 20.
Its always interesting when you get the young, drunk Lt's in the enlisted club demanding respect... can't we all get along?
that got me rolling remember some of the shit we used to...
Buddy of mine, both of us enlisted (E-4/Corp) were TDY on a post that had several "Staff Colleges" for Officers. Mainly YOUNG officers, fresh from OCS. The majority of them were always running around with their arms full of books, bags and everything else. So we'd walk over there around lunch time, and when they were letting, in uniform, and start hittin' 'em with salutes....
It was FUNNY AS HELL watchin' these guys drop shit to return salutes, forget to return salutes...hell one time this LT bristles up, pokes his chest out (he looked 12) and popped us this nice, crisp, salute....with his LEFT F'N HAND.
I almost went to my knees.
That day our Sgt Maj was with the XO and they saw us. AFTER they stopped laughing...they lectured us a bit. As the Sgt Maj walked away, the Major added "And next time make sure you hit 'em on FRIDAY when they are trying to get out of here for the weekend........"
OH Shit this thread made me remember what happened to me and a bud when we got back from a deployment....we were technically on medical R&R, but we were still on post.
He was in a cast from ankle to upper thigh, hobbling on crutches. My right arm was in a sling, and was wrapped like a Mummy on the shoulder and ribcage.
We were heading to the NCO club one early afternoon, in PT clothes, when this snotty little LT came walking up with his wife / gf. As we walked by, he stopped us, and got all nasty, asking us why we didn't salute.
Before I could say a damn word, the 1st Sgt walked by...heard / saw the exchange and answered him....
"..they didn't salute you SIR........because they are injured and unable to. Injured, as in wounded...as in wounded when trying to complete their assigned mission. Sort of like the paper cuts you get.........SIR........."
I didn't laugh. But snot bubbles came out my nose. My buddy giggled...then added out loud "..man these meds they gave me make me feel weird......"