POV + Motorcycle?

[samz3r]

Here's the scenario:

I commission next year, most likely going Signal Corps. I'm currently in NC.

I have a 2003 Celica, and a sportbike, and a single apartment furnished with my belongings (living room set, bare essentials bedroom set). I haven't asked around yet, so I have NO IDEA how moving/PCS/TDY/whateverhaveyou works. I guess the obvious question is, how would I move the POV and bike, along with belongings, to my 1st duty station with the least amount of headache?

Also, if I go Signal Corps, that 18 week BOLC III, is that simply BOLC III and then I move to my 1st duty station, or is Ft. Gordon considered 1st duty station?

-Sam

[ChesterMaddox]

Not sure about your BOLC thingie. But TMO (Traffic Management Office) will have movers move all your household goods including your motorcycle to your Permanent Duty Station at no cost to you unless you go over your allowed weight. Your best bet is to get a hold of your TMO office and ask them the question.

[Akheloce]

celica would be shipped as a pov, as part of your allotment, and the bike will be considered household goods, subject to the overall weight limit.

[HUTSCBR]

As far as I know training isn't considered a duty station, it would be a temp. duty station.

[Akheloce]

it's a TDY if under 6 months, PCS for over 6 months, regardless of training or not.

[rekab_tx]

The Army tends to count moves for officer schools as PCS and not TDY (to save all that per diem $$$) its called MTSS and Ft Gordon falls under the MTSS system. For example the CLC3 4 month couse I attended last summer counted as a PCS move....My 3rd in under 8 months. Pain in the ass (good luck finding a short term lease IF they let you live off post), but they will move the bike as part of your HHG. Also I believe BLOC will not count as your first duty station, your follow-on will.

As a side note, make sure TMO is aware you have a bike, and when they come to pack it up DEMAND a motorcycle crate (not any old crate will do and they have specific crates for bikes). Also make sure the movers properly block and brace it for transport. Micro-manage those damn movers or they will take short cuts and you will open that crate and want to murder someone.

(edit for horrid spelling)

[samz3r]

Thanks for the responses guys. These are questions that despite me being part of a good ROTC program at my school, the cadre can't answer :/

-Sam

[rekab_tx]

Your best bet for any questions your Cadre can't answer is to contact the school. Here is a link to Ft Gordon's website that may answer a lot of questions on SOBC/BLOC (like what the hell is MTSS):
http://www.gordon.army.mil/442sig/CO...bc/default.htm

[75thRanger]

I'm about 99% sure that BOLC III is not considered your first duty station. I was supposed to commission this May but i'm not graduating till Dec. I know two of my friends are going active, one is going to be a tanker and the other a combat engineer. The tanker is going to Ft. Benning then to Ft. Carson for his first duty station. The engineer is going to Ft. Leonardwood and then to Ft. Bragg for his. But to answer your question about moving your stuff, I dont have a clue.

[kawagirl]

I would sell the car and get a truck. I struggled for a few years with a sedan and a bike, had the miltary ship the bike to me in my HHG's and the movers wrecked my bike. I bought a truck so that I can put both bikes in the back and they go with me everywhere I go. Granted they are my children and I am lost without them. But I perfer to have eyes on my girls at all times instead of trusting them to the care of "bubba the mover" who does not have a vested interest in my belongings.

Also if you go to any track days out of your immediate areaa, or to Deals Gap, it is nice to relax in the truck on the way up, wear yourself out on the twisties and then relax on the way home.

[Ronrdrcr]

+1 I bought a 16' trailer to haul my jeep and my bike behind my truck. I don't want some mover touching my bike. I've seen what they do to my furniture.

Ron

[flying spaghetti monster]

Originally Posted by Akheloce

celica would be shipped as a pov, as part of your allotment, and the bike will be considered household goods, subject to the overall weight limit.

are you sure? on my last pcs (late 2004), i had to pay out of pocket because i was told that you can no longer ship a bike as household goods.

[rekab_tx]

For each of my last 3 PCS moves since 2006, my bike has been shipped with HHG (I should post pics of how the bikes ended up on their overseas journey, but just looking at the pics ups my blood pressure to dangerous levels). Might be a fairly new policy, or maybe you were close to your weight limit? Or it is entirely possible that the TMO you were dealing with were just assholes. I will see if I can dig up the reg.

[samz3r]

I wanna see these pics

[rekab_tx]

I will post them when I get home from work (websense no longer likes photobucket). It will bring a tear to everyones eye. And this is AFTER we thought we did everything right after learning from the previous 2 moves.

Anyway here is what I could find RE: HHG shipment...
Motorcycles: Motorcycles are considered household goods and will be included in your authorized shipping weight. If you are transporting a motorcycle, you must prepare the motorcycle for shipping or storage prior to pack and pick up dates. You must drain gasoline and radiator systems completely. The contractor shall tag or label to verify that no gasoline is
present. Lubricate the gas tank exterior, carburetor, and control cables. Battery cables must be disconnected and cable ends must be taped. For storage, the battery must be removed, unless you are pending an overseas assignment. A spare set of keys must be provided to the contractor.
The contractor will place the key in a suitable bag and affix it to the handlebar. If a motorcycle is being shipped overseas, it will be crated at the residence. The contractor will provide crating. For most stateside shipping and storing no crating will be required. The motorcycle will be padded and braced on the truck at the residence.