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zx10r wont start

Posted Mon September 12 2005 12:59 PM
i ahve an 05 zx 10r that has been on its side and now wont start. its getting fuel, just no fire. on a previous forums a guy was talking about a 636 that wnet down and it ended up being a sensor towards the front of the engine that was covered in oil, so im tyring to find out what sensors will cut fire to the plugs. this is a pic of hte only sensor i could find towars the front of the engine. it was jsut above and inbetween the two right down pipes (right side if your sitting on the bike) if anyone has any ideas, let me know.

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http://www.efegs.com/someguy/pics/bi...kes%200641.JPG

(please no responses like "Ishte clutch in" all the safety switches work, otherwise the bike would not turn over.)
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It turns over but wont light off right?

That sensor you pointed out looks to be the camshaft sensor, and ya it wont light off if its disconnected or malfunctioning.


First thought would be the tip over sensor, but I can't say for sure if it would even turn over if it were "stuck" Do you have any error codes from the ECU, is the FI light stuck on or blinking??

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no FI light on, i have no way of getting a code, i live about 2 hours from the nearest kawi dealer, so i kinda gotta go on waht trouble shooting i can do. is there any way i can test that sensor, or possible bypass is (i.e. plug the two wires together and act likes its an irrelavant sensor <---- i wish) is there any chance that this senssor is somehow NOT supposed to have oil on it? someway in hopes that this will be the fix? someway? please? pretty please?

if not is ther eanyway i an get my hands on the shcemtics of what is in the fire line. jsut for some more specific troubleshooting.

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You unbolt that sensor yourself or what?
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yea, just a sinlge 10mm bolt held it on.
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So it was bolted in place at the time of the crash??
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Where does Kawi keep the tip over sensors on their bikes? That would cut fuel and ignition power, but the bike would still crank.

Does your fuel pump prime when you turn on the key?

This thought is all I have to trust upon, when light is gone.

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ZXNLT - yea it was bolted in place during the crash, i took it off just yesterday. crash was friday nite.

Redstar - no idea they had one, i'll google it now and see if it exsists. and does the fuel pump prime? i would say it does, i unhooked the gaslines saturday just to make sure iw as covering my basis, most the bikes i work on (old jap bikes) that actually ahve fule pums jsut dribbles some fuel out. this damn thin shot fuel about 4 feet, all over me but yea the pump works . my only problem is fire. once i get that im good to go. this is the first non carburated permorance bike im on, so some new things to learn here.

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Have you checked your ignition fuses?

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checked all the fuses, only one that was blown was the headlight fuse. all other fuse in both boxes were good.
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I would bet its the tip over sensor. Have you tried resetting it? Im not too sure on this i can make a phone call if you need me to. Let me know.

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The tip over sensor doesn't need to be "reset"

It's either working properly, or it's broken. If it is bolted in correctly, and the bike is upright, the TOS should not have any effect unless it's broken.

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then maybe its broken, a new zx-10 should start up Its pretty hard to diagnose a problem over the internet. If its not a fuse for the ign, fuel pump, FI, or the tip over sensor itself. It has to be ign, or fuel delivery its pretty simple but all the Fuel injection and relays make it more complicated. He said that Fuel delivery is ok. So its the ign. It has to be somewhere between the battery and the ECU or CDI. The coils have a hot wire that delivers power to them test that for voltage and if its getting voltage maybe your pulsar is not sending a signal to the CDI. IT gets complicated so start where its easy...try getting a voltage reading off the hot side of the coil. Let us know what you come up with. If you get 0 volts to the coil trace the wiring to the fusebox. It could be something as simple as an unhooked wire from the impact. Stranger things have happened.

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