Protein Question

[Kawamaniac]

So I'm getting ready to start the whole lifting routine. I had been putting it off until I had lost a little more weight. As of 2 weeks ago (haven't weighed since then) I had lost 60lbs. So now I'm getting some whey protein and going to start a lifting routine I found that seems like it would be pretty solid. My question however is I've seen the suggestion of taking 25g of protein pre and post workout. Now here's my big question. How much protein do I take on my days off from lifting when I'm doing cardio or nothing at all? Do I still need to take a lot of protein? If so how much protein should I take on my down days and how much?

Thanks,
Brandon

[StreetPharmacist]

Take 25 grams of protein b4, drink a 20 ounce sode,white bread,lowfat cake or cookies,etc immediatly after the gym. Then in a few minutes drink around 40-50 grams of protein. Your total protein intake should be at least .7-.8 grams on non-workout days and around 1 gram on workout days per pound of body weight.

[ZxHunteR]

taking protein pre WO is unnecessary

Just take whey post WO and take whey whenever on rest days

Originally Posted by StreetPharmacist

Take 25 grams of protein b4, drink a 20 ounce sode,white bread,lowfat cake or cookies,etc immediatly after the gym. Then in a few minutes drink around 40-50 grams of protein. Your total protein intake should be at least .7-.8 grams on non-workout days and around 1 gram on workout days per pound of body weight.

low fat cake? lolstfutrollfag

Obviously dont listen to a word street is saying.

[Kawamaniac]

Originally Posted by ZxHunteR

taking protein pre WO is unnecessary

Just take whey post WO and take whey whenever on rest days





low fat cake? lolstfutrollfag

Obviously dont listen to a word street is saying.

How much protein would you suggest taking on an off day? I'm not looking to get huge here. I'm still toning up and I just wanted to have some muscle for when I go back to cutting and losing more.

[ZxHunteR]

I cant help but LOL.

You arent going to accidentally get huge muscles. You SHOULD be trying to get huge because training like a girl is going to get you no where. If you go to the gym thinking 'okay Im not trying to get huge here dont wanna have nasty bulging muscles' you arent going to get anywhere soon. As if you will wake up the next day screaming in the mirror looking like a juice monkey. I dont even know why you said that. You are losing weight here. When you lose weight you lose muscle. You are going to lose muscle regardless but the idea is to lose as little as possible. Big Muscles = Big metabolism.


People put too much faith into supplements. Supps aren't hormone changing drugs. Protein and creatine is found in every day food.


You can choose to take 25g or 50g. I would go with 25g 2 times a day.

[silvr6]

Couldn't agree more with zxhunter, i wouldn't take it pre workout, i would grab an no2 or creatine if you want anything for pre-work out.

Post work out 25-50g right after is pretty good and make sure you get a good meal in withint the hour of after lifting. Supplements don't make you strong or lean out, they are just that supplements to your workout and diet.

congrats on the weight loss

[StreetPharmacist]

Originally Posted by ZxHunteR

taking protein pre WO is unnecessary

Just take whey post WO and take whey whenever on rest days





low fat cake? lolstfutrollfag

Obviously dont listen to a word street is saying.

Whey protein pre-workout helps to dilate the blood vessels which in turn means more oxygen and nutrients to the muscles. It also is a fast acting protein and will deliver essential ammino acid to the muscles as you workout.
Post workout- Blood insulin level is affected the most by simple sugars. To raise insulin YOU NEED TO CONSUME SIMPLE CARBS. Fat slows digestion when you want it to be at its fastest,so anything low fat, and sugary such as juice, or soda,even white bread is needed.
OBVIUOSLY YOU MY INCOMPETENT SIR DOES NOT KNOW HOW THE HUMAN BODY WORKS, OR THE IMPORTANCE OF AN ELEVATED INSULIN LEVEL IMMEDIATLY POST WORKOUT. A COLLEGE EDUCATION GOES A LONG WAY.

[stevo_x]

^^^...well thats not very nice....

[StreetPharmacist]

Originally Posted by ZxHunteR

I cant help but LOL.

You arent going to accidentally get huge muscles. You SHOULD be trying to get huge because training like a girl is going to get you no where. If you go to the gym thinking 'okay Im not trying to get huge here dont wanna have nasty bulging muscles' you arent going to get anywhere soon. As if you will wake up the next day screaming in the mirror looking like a juice monkey. I dont even know why you said that. You are losing weight here. When you lose weight you lose muscle. You are going to lose muscle regardless but the idea is to lose as little as possible. Big Muscles = Big metabolism.


People put too much faith into supplements. Supps aren't hormone changing drugs. Protein and creatine is found in every day food.


You can choose to take 25g or 50g. I would go with 25g 2 times a day.

BUT THEY ARE, WHEY PROTEIN WILL RAISE YOUR INSULIN(LAST I CHECKED THIS WAS A HORMONE) LEVELS MUCH MORE THEN A LEAN STEAK. THEN THERES THE MATTER OF BIOAVALIBILITY,AMINO ACID CONTENT, ABSORPTION RATES,ETC. POST WORKOUT ABSORPTION RATE MATTERS,INSULIN LEVEL MATTERS. WOULD U EAT A LEAN STEAK HALF AN HOUR AFTER WORKIN OUT AS YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF PROTEIN SLOWLY TAKING IN 50 GRAMS OF PROTEIN OVER THE NEXT 4+ HOURS. OR TAKE WHEY,AND START GETTING AS MUCH PROTEIN TO YOUR MUSCLES AS THEY CAN USE IN MINUTES. DIFFRENT TIMES OF THE DAY,AND DIFFRENT SITUATIONS CALL FOR DIFFRENT SOURCES OF PROTEIN. THAT SLOW DIGESTING STEAK IS A GOOD IDEA B4 BED,BUT TO SAY THIS STUFF DOESN'T AFFECT HORMONES AND GENERALIZING PROTEIN IS RETARDED. DON'T PREACH WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW E-SCHWARTEZNAGER.

[zanatos1914]

Originally Posted by Kawamaniac

So I'm getting ready to start the whole lifting routine. I had been putting it off until I had lost a little more weight. As of 2 weeks ago (haven't weighed since then) I had lost 60lbs. So now I'm getting some whey protein and going to start a lifting routine I found that seems like it would be pretty solid. My question however is I've seen the suggestion of taking 25g of protein pre and post workout. Now here's my big question. How much protein do I take on my days off from lifting when I'm doing cardio or nothing at all? Do I still need to take a lot of protein? If so how much protein should I take on my down days and how much?

Thanks,
Brandon

Your post doesn't make sense...

Why would you take protein to increase muscle mass after you dropped 60pds
That Why protein is some good stuff but its going to put the weight back on that you lost...

What is your goal? Sounded like you wanted to drop weight and now you want it back.. I disagree with taking protein because it always goes to the same place in the end - You stomach - Proteins that aren't burnt up turns to fat and you are back @ square 1..... Think about what you are doing and ask up again...

[ZxHunteR]

Originally Posted by StreetPharmacist

BUT THEY ARE, WHEY PROTEIN WILL RAISE YOUR INSULIN(LAST I CHECKED THIS WAS A HORMONE) LEVELS MUCH MORE THEN A LEAN STEAK. THEN THERES THE MATTER OF BIOAVALIBILITY,AMINO ACID CONTENT, ABSORPTION RATES,ETC. POST WORKOUT ABSORPTION RATE MATTERS,INSULIN LEVEL MATTERS. WOULD U EAT A LEAN STEAK HALF AN HOUR AFTER WORKIN OUT AS YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF PROTEIN SLOWLY TAKING IN 50 GRAMS OF PROTEIN OVER THE NEXT 4+ HOURS. OR TAKE WHEY,AND START GETTING AS MUCH PROTEIN TO YOUR MUSCLES AS THEY CAN USE IN MINUTES. DIFFRENT TIMES OF THE DAY,AND DIFFRENT SITUATIONS CALL FOR DIFFRENT SOURCES OF PROTEIN. THAT SLOW DIGESTING STEAK IS A GOOD IDEA B4 BED,BUT TO SAY THIS STUFF DOESN'T AFFECT HORMONES AND GENERALIZING PROTEIN IS RETARDED. DON'T PREACH WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW E-SCHWARTEZNAGER.

u mad?

[ZxHunteR]

Originally Posted by zanatos1914

Your post doesn't make sense...

Why would you take protein to increase muscle mass after you dropped 60pds
That Why protein is some good stuff but its going to put the weight back on that you lost...

What is your goal? Sounded like you wanted to drop weight and now you want it back.. I disagree with taking protein because it always goes to the same place in the end - You stomach - Proteins that aren't burnt up turns to fat and you are back @ square 1..... Think about what you are doing and ask up again...

Good god man are you serious?

[StreetPharmacist]

Originally Posted by ZxHunteR

u mad?

YOUR RETARDED. YOU CAN NOT EVEN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT POST TO DEFEND YOURSELF, BECAUSE WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY TYPED IS SOME OF THE MOST MISGUIDED $5 GIBBERISH HEALTH MAGAZINE ADVICE.

[ZxHunteR]

Originally Posted by StreetPharmacist

YOUR RETARDED. YOU CAN NOT EVEN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT POST TO DEFEND YOURSELF, BECAUSE WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY TYPED IS SOME OF THE MOST MISGUIDED $5 GIBBERISH HEALTH MAGAZINE ADVICE.

dang u mad

[zanatos1914]

Originally Posted by ZxHunteR

Good god man are you serious?

Yes...

Protein will make you gain weight and it will not be all muscle and it will hit your stomach.. You will need a real diet or its back to square 1....

Been there done that...

Protein should be taken for those who want to get larger and gain weight....

Would suggest another method if you are serious...

What makes your musle get larger and stronger? Fatigue --- Push your muscle until you cant lift anymore and you will see results but you will need a agent to help repair the muscle. Lifting weights breaks down the musle and that why you never work the musle back to back...

They have stuff out now that will help you get fatigue faster now...

Good Luck..