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Old 03-03-2008, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i swear, there's nothing like it. i've tried so many other ephedra products, some with 27mg's isntead of 25, but nothing has that smooth kick and appetite suppression that stacker 2 did.

i wish i still had link to the place still selling it!
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I've tried those before and it didn't do a damn thing for me. Maybe it's just me though.
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i swear, there's nothing like it. i've tried so many other ephedra products, some with 27mg's isntead of 25, but nothing has that smooth kick and appetite suppression that stacker 2 did.

i wish i still had link to the place still selling it!
seriously? i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

stacker 2 has ephedra in it?
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I'm serious...i think its the caffeine/ephedra combo it has...or maybe osme of the other ingredients.
all other ephedra products dont have the same kick.
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there are still products with ephedra being produced?
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In response to renewed calls for the regulation of ephedra, the FDA commissioned a large meta-analysis of ephedra's safety and efficacy by the RAND Corporation. This study found that while ephedra promoted modest short-term weight loss, there was no evidence that it was effective for long-term weight loss or performance enhancement. The use of ephedra in this study was associated with significant gastrointestinal, psychiatric, and autonomic side effects.[38] Almost simultaneously, a study in Annals of Internal Medicine found that ephedra was 100 to 700 times more likely to cause a significant adverse reaction compared to other commonly used supplements such as kava or Ginkgo biloba.[5]

On December 30, 2003, the FDA issued a press release recommending that consumers stop buying and using ephedra, and indicating its intention to ban the sale of ephedra-containing supplements.[39] Subsequently, on April 12, 2004, the FDA issued a final rule banning the sale of ephedra-containing dietary supplements. Tommy Thompson, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, stated that "...These products pose unacceptable health risks, and any consumers who are still using them should stop immediately."
That and caffeine is the poor man's cocaine. Good for a quick boost, but I don't drink 3 pots of coffee a day anymore.
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There's ephedra-free...that must be what you googled up.

I can show you many websites that legally sell ephedra right now. The ban was overturned a year ago. Even under the 'ban' it was legal but not as a supplement, but only as an (unregulated) herbal relief for asthma.
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I've tried those before and it didn't do a damn thing for me. Maybe it's just me though.
You probabaly tried the ephedra-free version...

Original Xenadrine and Stacker 2 were the best!
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Yeah Ephedra is legal again, but not widely used.... It's good as a fast-acting bronchodilator IIRC....but not safe if you've got heart issues.

Stackers always worked well for me too....the edge on them isn't as bad as a lot of others. For me personally, the stacker Blackjacks worked smoother and the comedown didn't leave me as jittery/anxious....I'm pretty sensitive to energy supplements.
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Have you ever tried lipodrene ephedra this thing has a good kick to it no to hard but just enough to get you going
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I have 15 bottles of it Lipodrene right now. Trust me, nothing has the kick like Stacker 2.
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What works best for you all depends on body chemistry.... No one-size-fits-all here
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