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Old 02-20-2008, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red, fish, chicken?

I've pretty much stopped with red meats (hamburgers, steaks, etc.) and have increased white meat consumption (chicken, turkey, tuna, salmon, etc.) I've also been getting some protein replacement through peanut butter (which is probably more of a vice, but at least it's monosaturated).

How much red meat do you consume in one week? What's considered the threshold? I know that overconsumption showed increase risk of colorectal cancer in some studies.
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I eat a ton of red meat, in fact, I eat a ton of every food. And thats the key to not dying from food, eat a balanced diet. Seriously, when I was a baby, like 1 yo, I loved carrots and ate them soo much I started to get a orange pigment. My doctor thought I had a disease and did all kinds of tests, but I was fine. You'll also notice that over the years pretty much everything from the obvious smoking, to Beats or some other seamingly healthy food, has been linked to an increased risk of some kind of disease. Bottom line, eat a balnaced diet, don't smoke or become an addict, exercise and you'll be fine.

Case in point - I usually eat six whole eggs a day, sometimes more. My LDL levels are almost non existent and HDL is pretty much perfect, it's like my arteries are coated with Teflon. And thats with lots of studies saying that the yolk causes an increase in cholesterol. I also have a history of high blood pressure and heart disease in my family, 2 of my great grandparents died from heart attacks and all but 1 of my grandparents have had at least one heart attack.

The only thing I'd be worried about if you eat well and are active is family history, which is easy enough to find out about.
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I quit eating red meat a long time ago, esp ground beef. It makes me feel like a ate concrete. I started using ground turkey instead of beef.

However, my SO hates ground turkey, so for him I will use ground sirloin in recipes where it matters, like lasgnana, or for real homemade burgers. But I can't eat it. The last time I made lasgana (last week), I ate some of it (b/c it's so damn good), but I was feeling the effects by that evening, and was miserable all night and most of the next day.

I love a few bites of rare steak every so often (no more than once a year or so), but I can't make a meal of it.
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i don't eat much red meat ... if i eat it once a month that will do me just fine. i love a good burger (prepped and cooked at home, not one from any restaurant), don't get me wrong, but when i eat red meat, it stays with me for days. when i do get red meat i will get the leanest available, i believe the brand is laura's ... it has 4g of fat per serving.

for a ground beef substitute, i get ground turkey breast, not just ground turkey b/c the nutritional value isn't much different than 80% ground beef.
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I eat red meat, but lots of other things too. Lean beef has great amounts of protien and iron with little fat. As for ground beef, I have started mixing lean ground beef with ground turkey breast. A little better for me but still tastes pretty good.
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i'll eat red meat sometimes... when the girlfriend makes ribs or steaks or something. It's just damn good. I usually try to get my dietary protein from the milk, chicken, beans, fish, nuts... I generally don't use red meat (or it's ground up by products) daily. For me, it's kind of like calliste... I just feel heavy when I eat it. Those other protein products don't make me feel like that... so I eat them more often.

A wide variety of foods in moderation... it's the same thing I heard from every nutrition class I've taken. And no, twinkies are not food

Oh, and cooking meat at high temps (to where they get that delicious charred flavor and coating.. yum) is bad. Breaks down the proteins so they can't be digested properly and you get a lot (apparently like 300x more) free radical byproduct. The heat also changes the chemical compounds to a certain degree that makes them more affective on damaging cells. Apparently low and slow is the way to go.
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Oh, and cooking meat at high temps (to where they get that delicious charred flavor and coating.. yum) is bad. Breaks down the proteins so they can't be digested properly and you get a lot (apparently like 300x more) free radical byproduct. The heat also changes the chemical compounds to a certain degree that makes them more affective on damaging cells. Apparently low and slow is the way to go.

good point man ... i usually eat my steaks medium rare and my burgers while they're still pink on the inside, i think they're more flavorful that way.
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just to clear this up:

Meat: comes from Mamals
Fish: comes from fish
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If it's animal flesh I eat it. I eat redmeat, fish, chicken, etc. Nothing wrong with red meat with a balanced diet. Red meat has been shown to raise testosterone levels. Eggs are good as well.
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I love red meat. I eat it at least once a week. But I also eat a lot of chicken, and fish when I can.

Trout season's coming up, so I'm expecting an increase in fish intake.
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Look back in history.... Look at the layout of our teeth... We're built to be omnivorous, and our bodies are built and designed for it. Not saying there's anything wrong with switching away from meats.....but keep that in mind when you're adjusting your diet....and take supplements for the holes in your nutrition, like iron for example. Listen to your body....deficiencies will make themselves known, in one way or another.
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