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Old 09-01-2004, 05:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree that they should punished to the full extent that the law allows for street racing. Not manslaughter though, her own actions killed her. If they ran her off the road or caused her to loose control, that would justifiable. Not just for racing though in my opinion.

What I really don't get is the passenger being prosecuted for it though. What was he supposed to do. Wrestle the wheel away from the guy or jump out the door? The driver is responsible for everything that happens in a vehicle no matter what your idiot passengers may be telling you.
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I agree. I don't think they are responsible for her death. They didn't hit her car or swerve at her, she lost control. They are guilty of many crimes, but homicide isn't one of them. If I race a bike from a light (which I don't do) and I hit a telephone pole, I certainly don't blame that other rider...it is my own damn fault and it was my own damn decision to do it. No one forced her to race.
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Don King said it best---"Only in America!!"...

Only is America does everyone but the person responsible get blamed (and prosecuted)...
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Well we see what the real point is here. don't race girls, they can't drive.

i agree. Those 2 guys lives are ruined because that girl lost control of her car. they should not of been racing on public roads, but 6 years is a long time to be paying for someone elses mistake.
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I hear ya...We never read threads about men who lose control of their rides and crash.. /rolls eyes
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I think the passenger charge was as an accomplice? I know that if you are in a car and say the driver shoots and kills someone you can be charged that way. So maybe that's where the charges stem

I also agree it shouldn't be manslaughter. Had his passenger died from the race then i could see the charge but not physically being there I don't see how they made that stick.
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Old 09-01-2004, 06:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"I buried my daughter in a wedding dress because I knew I wouldn't ever see her married," Rehanek said. "There was something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue."
Too bad, but WTF is wrong w/ this mother?
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What a joke. 6 years for racing somebody who can't drive. What was Janklow sentenced to for running a stop sign and killing a guy again?
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Obviously, the D.A. made an example out of the survivors. Six years is a LONG time. The unfortunate reality is, those who raced and survived are likely to become criminal minded after their stay with REAL criminals. When a person goes into survival mode for extended periods, they run the risk of losing the emotional empathetic capacity that (generally) separates social deviants from the rest of society. Idealistically, prison isn’t the answer.

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Well I think it would have to be a hell of a lot more then $50/week but I don't think that putting him in jail really solves anything. It definetly doesn't send the message that it is intended to send (see drug dealing and countless other situations where prison time is given out but the crimes still precist)

I think that if the people commiting these so called crimes were to pay the family handsomely instead of sitting around in jail just rotting, at least they would be serving a purpose i.e. paying the family (easing the burden of death) and the person wouldn't be sitting in jail using up MY tax dollors!!!
But you can’t squeeze blood from a turnip. If this individual can only obtain a minimum wage job, how can he pay reasonable restitution? He can’t.

So maybe prison is the answer? While I don’t want to pay $60,000+ annually to house this person, what other options are there? If this man’s sentence can somehow prevent or minimize the occurrence of future incidents then I’m all for it…sacrifice one…to benefit many. Life is unfair, don’t be a dumbass.
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Why would they charge the passanger in the vehicle that didn't wreck? That's just wrong. Hell, I've ridden with people who did stupid shit.... I gave them hell before and after and I'll be damned if I'd take responsibility for something they did.
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i agree. they didnt force her off the road, force her to do anything. minimum charged with reckless driving and street racing. but for manslaughter? i dont see how they convicted them for it, thats just rediculous.
The must have had a legal-aid lawyer .

Lesson here is if you get charged, do some research and pay through the nose for a GOOD Lawyer. Justice may be blind, but money often tips the scale.
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Why would they charge the passanger in the vehicle that didn't wreck? That's just wrong.
Not that this applies here since I don't believe street racing is a felony, but if present (in a situation where you're aware of what's going on) w/ the "perp" during a felony and a death results, you can be charged as well. Sounds like they "stretched" that. Or there were other circumstances simply not reported. Not that that kind of thing happens.
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Not that this applies here since I don't believe street racing is a felony, but if present (in a situation where you're aware of what's going on) w/ the "perp" during a felony and a death results, you can be charged as well. Sounds like they "stretched" that. Or there were other circumstances simply not reported. Not that that kind of thing happens.

Basically you are an accomplice by association
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I know this guy. Met him a few years ago through a friend of mine, he didn't seem like that bad of a kid, but you could tell he was kind of a punk. He deserves everything that he got, and that he will get in prison.
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I just can't agree with this. The guy may have been racing, but how did he cause the accident?
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