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post #76 of 98 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 10:16 PM
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Get this: In a same day, same dyno test against a privately owned Ducati 1199 Panigale, the 419-pound 1190RX allegedly topped the Italian V-twin by one horsepower and made mincemeat of it in the midrange. I learned this from EBR engineers at the recent AIMExpo in Orlando, Florida, where the RX debut took place.
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Just wait 'til Indian starts making a real SS bike...

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Man, that thing is ugly. It looks like some mock-up of what a 'futuristic' bike would look like for a movie that was made in 1987. The only thing I like is the rear wheel. Engine numbers are impressive though (on paper).
My thoughts exactly.


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Happy?

by the way, I did say there wasn't the market here for a CanAm sportbike. S'ok though, I'll forget that.
Only thing I'll say is: if it's so goddamn easy, and they figured they could make a goddamn boatload of cash making one, they'd goddamn do it.

so one of those 2 things is stopping them from doing it.
Am I happy?You mean generally or right at this moment?Generally both I suppose,especially as I'm now home from work.
There's no shame in not knowing something,only in failing to learn when the opportunity presents itself.

I'm not sure why you think BRP should build a sportbike simply because you want them to.Maybe you should ask them.Why does any company do anything?I certainly don't know.

Why doesn't Ford build washing machines and GM build weed wackers? They could likely make money at it-if that's the only criteria you figure any company should have to determine whether they should produce a product or not.

In BRP's case,yes,it would be easy for them.That much at least is glaringly obvious.With bike sales dropping these days is it worth it to them?Likely not.On the other hand,maybe someone at the top doesn't like two wheelers or maybe it just needs the right enthusiast to come along in the company to drive that sort of project-or the dirt equivalent.Or maybe they figure they have enough in their recreational project line right now in this economic climate to occupy their production facilities and current work force.

As I said,I haven't a clue and I suspect they wouldn't tell me if I asked.
If I was them though,I'd do what they have done now if my goal was unit sales(naturally so) and if I was to delve into two wheelers to test the waters,a cruiser would be my first machine.A sportbike would likely be my last.

If you know how any motorcycle company these days can make "a boatload of cash" selling sportbikes,I'm sure they'd all love to hear it.

With all that in mind,I think it's fantastic that small companies like EBR are throwing their hat in as it can only be good for everyone.Racing is far better with more entries and brands in the mix.I wish them well and would consider one myself if in the market -esp with the rotax derived engine as that would hopefully ensure decent parts availability down the road.

There you go Predator,my absolute last BRP post on the EBR thread,really...
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Rather have an FZ-09 and a few thousand dollars in my pocket.
Enough to have a milk shake while waiting for that POS to finally get there.

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Dunno about that.

The only reason I own a 675 and not a 1125R is Barb's Hardly Ableson they fucked up the deal. The 1125 had a big league twin, and the 1190s are by ALL reports...better.

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Some of us don't consider twins to be worth riding. They are for lazy folks that have issues with shifting.
But hey, if that floats your boat, go with it. Life begins at 12,000 rpm.

Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Why ask for an opinion if it isn't wanted?

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Some of us don't consider twins to be worth riding. They are for lazy folks that have issues with shifting.
But hey, if that floats your boat, go with it. Life begins at 12,000 rpm.

Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Why ask for an opinion if it isn't wanted?
I have a 156hp@86ft/lbs rear wheel as of the dyno yesterday.......box stock.....twin.

Its absolutely the best engine of every bike that I have owned in the twenty-seven years I've ridden motorcycles.

Not worthy of your time, got it.

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now just think. . .The EBR has about 30 more HP than that.

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Machine Analysis - The official Isle of Man TT website

URL for TT wins by manufacture. Honda with 247, Yamaha with 223, Suzuki with 104, Norton(twins) with 94. Results talk, BS walks. If I wanted to ride on a dyno, I for sure would get me one of those.
Or, as the street racers go; What does a 600HP Supra have in common with a 1200 hp Supra? 10 second ET's.
The R1 crossplane is rumored to put out 230HP. That hot BMW inline 4 has over 200. 'Busa and the ZX-14 are probably over 200.
But that doesn't matter. What matters is performance. And the twins cannot make those dyno numbers mean anything on the street.
TT is mid May. Will any twin finish in the top 10? Can that EBR keep up with an R6, Ninja 6 or Gixer 6? Maybe an rr. a newer one not an '05 to '07.
I'll bet it looks good rolling around the parking lot at the local beer joint/fern bar.
I'll bet those Ninja boys are all over that EBR. Everytime they pass one, they stand on the pegs and shake their bootie.

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yes, lets compare a company that has been around for 70 years to a company that has been around for 1 year, in regards to most race wins.

you are a few floors short of a completed building, aintchya?

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Hard to have hundreds of wins when EBR is a year old

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The R1 crossplane is rumored to put out 230HP.
Rumors. This would be the same Yamaha that's has had a crossplane, and is typically at the bottom of the liter bike pack?

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195

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No, the Busa's are in the 160 to 170 rwhp range. The newer ZX might be over 200 at the crank


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What matters is performance. And the twins cannot make those dyno numbers mean anything on the street.
Right, since their superior torque makes them better for the street.

My lowly 147 hp has no trouble keeping up with BMW 1000R's and Busa's on the real street, even when they go WOT. Do I think I'm ultimately as fast? Of course not, but on the street, the torque and throttle response and a bit of attention, and I don't get dumped. Not bad when you figure I weigh more than most of the other riders

But hey, different strokes for different folks
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