Bike Needs a Battery I Think - Sportbikes.net
 

Home Message Board SBN Chat SBN Articles Bike Specs Register Classifieds Forum Rules Advertise Contact Us

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Go Back   Sportbikes.net > Topic Discussions > General Sportbikes
Register Subscribe Casino Garage FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Insurance Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Motorcycle Escrow


General Sportbikes This area is for sport bike discussion in general. Topics that don't really belong anywhere else can go here. Questions can be answered and addressed to fully understand certain aspects of the sport. If your question is manufacturer specific please post it there.
Sponsored by: TCX Boots

Insurance


Site Sponsors
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-11-2012, 03:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
NoobKid
Superbike Champion
 
NoobKid's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 435
Gameroom cash: $1534
Sportbike: 2001 kawi zx6r
Thanks: 10
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
NoobKid is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Bike Needs a Battery I Think

I don't ride my bike as much as I would like to, so the bike sits for a week or 2 at a time occasionally. Needless to say, I had to ride it the other day and the battery was dead so I push started it and popped the clutch. Then I went for a 30 minute ride, thinking that maybe the stator (right?) would charge the battery back up. So i got off the bike, went to class, came back, and it barely gave me anything when i tried to start. It gave me maybe 1 full second of an effort and then NOTHING. So i had to push start it again. Rode for an hour and then took the battery off to be charged for 10 hours. The battery now has a full charge, but I'm going to load test it this weekend to check the voltage. Only thing is, I can't check cranking amps with a load test and I was wondering if the load test is pointless and if I should just get a new battery instead...

If i do get a battery, I have no idea which to get. The battery only has one marking on it. It says 'BS' on the side of it. No other codes or ANYTHING. How do I figure out which battery I need? Do i need to measure the battery or are motorcycle batteries specific sizes depending on the type? I've done a little searching around and am not getting the answers I need.

Thanks in advance guys.

P.S. - Somebody told me its not good to push start my bike. Is that true? I don't plan on doing it again, I just needed to do it a few times bc I was in a pinch
NoobKid is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-11-2012, 03:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
akiraruns
Supersport Racer
 
akiraruns's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SoCal
Age: 26
Posts: 157
Gameroom cash: $1492
Sportbike: 2013 GSXR 750
Thanks: 70
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
akiraruns is on a distinguished road
Default

I think you just need to ride more and don't worry about the battery until *if* it dies again, then buy a new battery.
__________________
RIDING IS FREEDOM inked on my arm.
akiraruns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 04:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
UltimateOG
World 500 GP Racer
 
UltimateOG's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oceanside, CA
Age: 27
Posts: 2,703
Gameroom cash: $18454
Sportbike: 11 Ninja 650R (RIP), 05 ZX6R (RIP), 05 ZX6R (Second Chance)
Thanks: 421
Thanked 471 Times in 320 Posts
UltimateOG is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoobKid View Post
The battery only has one marking on it. It says 'BS' on the side of it. No other codes or ANYTHING.
In your circumstance, this battery is aptly marked.
__________________
When Life Gets Hard, Play Harder.
UltimateOG is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to UltimateOG For This Useful Post:
akiraruns (12-11-2012)
Old 12-11-2012, 04:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
SuperBikeFairings
Supersport Racer
 
SuperBikeFairings's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 138
Gameroom cash: $1559
Sportbike: 2011 GSXR-1000
Thanks: 1
Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
SuperBikeFairings is on a distinguished road
Default

Sounds like you need a new battery. After a while they just don't hold a charge any more. Even if you do get it charged it may only hold for a week or a few days. New batteries are not usually more than $100 or so. Call around to auto parts stores and just tell them you need a battery for year/make/model bike that you have and get quotes for the best price, that will save you from driving all over the place. Also there is nothing at all wrong with push starting, other than it being a pain in the ass and embarrassing.
__________________
Come See Us at www.SuperBikeFairings.com and get your bike looking right!
SuperBikeFairings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 06:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
SqDancerLynn1
500 G.P. Champion
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pomona, Cal
Posts: 1,890
Gameroom cash: $29817
Sportbike:
Thanks: 1
Thanked 81 Times in 48 Posts
SqDancerLynn1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Check your charging rate too !!!!
SqDancerLynn1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2012, 08:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
iquack08
Umbrella Girl
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 39
Gameroom cash: $1572
Sportbike: K7 GSX-R600
Thanks: 20
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iquack08 is on a distinguished road
Default

I would buy a volt meter, $5ish, to check the battery first.
iquack08 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to iquack08 For This Useful Post:
uncalcetindelana (12-12-2012)
Old 12-11-2012, 11:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
Nero Diablo
500 G.P. Champion
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Western Austalia South Coast
Age: 40
Posts: 1,503
Gameroom cash: $41412
Sportbike: 1994 1100 Sport Moto Guzzi,MGS-01
Thanks: 6
Thanked 107 Times in 80 Posts
Nero Diablo is on a distinguished road
Default

Most battery manufacturers have a fitment list either in a book or online plug in make and model comes out with recommended products from that manufacturer.

ie here Yuasa Batteries :: Motorcycle

Odyssey Drycell Motorcycle Batteries

A true load test will check cranking amps, a voltmeter across the terminals won't tell you much.
However if you want a basic guide a good but flat battery will read around 12-12.2 volts across the terminals a fully charged battery will be around 12.4-12.6 volts. Anything below 12 suggests it has dropped a cell or is about to. For a basic load test you can put a volt meter across the battery and take note of what the reading is then turn the headlights on even with a flat battery the voltage should only drop about 0.2-0.4 volts. If it dumps down to a number with anything that starts with an 11 if its really bad a 9 the battery is dead and you need a newy.

Although as I said this is a basic guide you can preform with a multimeter/voltmeter the definative answer will be a load test which most battery retailers will do for free.
Nero Diablo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Nero Diablo For This Useful Post:
uncalcetindelana (12-12-2012)
Old 12-11-2012, 11:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
F4sSprintST
World 500 GP Champion
 
F4sSprintST's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 14,686
Gameroom cash: $84541
Sportbike: 2009 Buell 1125R
Thanks: 2,662
Thanked 4,105 Times in 2,253 Posts
F4sSprintST has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Default

Batteryplus.com


Sent from my iPhone using Motorcycle.com Free App
F4sSprintST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 01:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
NoobKid
Superbike Champion
 
NoobKid's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 435
Gameroom cash: $1534
Sportbike: 2001 kawi zx6r
Thanks: 10
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
NoobKid is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Great info thanks guys
NoobKid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 07:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
USAFgsxr750again
500 GP Racer
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Box Elder, SD WOOOOOOT!!
Posts: 801
Gameroom cash: $6529
Sportbike: 2012 ZX14R
Thanks: 89
Thanked 116 Times in 90 Posts
USAFgsxr750again is on a distinguished road
Default

GET A BATTERY TENDER!!! It'll solve most of your future problems. while i have owned/used one, never had a battery go bad. the longest i've had the stock battery in any of my bikes was the Busa... 5 years... then i sold the bike. grrr. i seem to have bike adhd
__________________
If you're gonna go, go with a smile!!
2012 ZX-14R in Blaze Green.
USAFgsxr750again is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to USAFgsxr750again For This Useful Post:
Bird of Fire (12-12-2012), F4sSprintST (12-12-2012), uncalcetindelana (12-12-2012)
Old 12-12-2012, 07:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
F4sSprintST
World 500 GP Champion
 
F4sSprintST's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 14,686
Gameroom cash: $84541
Sportbike: 2009 Buell 1125R
Thanks: 2,662
Thanked 4,105 Times in 2,253 Posts
F4sSprintST has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Default

Batteries are very fragile today

Tenders are a must if its sitting much


Sent from my iPhone using Motorcycle.com Free App
F4sSprintST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 07:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
uncalcetindelana
500 GP Racer
 
uncalcetindelana's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Punta Arenas, Chile
Age: 27
Posts: 869
Gameroom cash: $13018
Sportbike: 1995 Ducati 916; 2002 Ducati M750Sie
Thanks: 797
Thanked 258 Times in 155 Posts
uncalcetindelana is on a distinguished road
Default

I use a battery tender when I park the bike every night. I have a Black&Decker orange one, it's very good at keeping the battery level.

These older Ducatis are famous for their bad charging systems, so I've done all the typical steps to take care of my battery, and I advice:

1-Get a voltimeter permanently connected to the battery terminals. This way everytime I ride I monitor how well the bike is charging, and I have an idea of how good is the battery before I ride. (Nero Diablo's numbers are good in my case)

2-NEVER push start it or attempt to start it when the battery is low. This could cause other, more expensive, electrical problems.

With your symptons, I'd say it's possible that your battery is ruined or going to be ruined soon, given that it has fallen too low. My old battery had this problem, and then I recharged it but it wouldn't hold charge due to a lack of water in it. I re-filled and re-charged and it worked fine, but this is a short term solution, in general.

However, not only would I check/replace the battery, but most importantly, get a multimeter and test your charging system. An R/R failure is not uncommon on vehicles that don't have a very reliable charging systems (read: sportbikes in general).

Do it like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51669068/Duc...uc%20adobe.pdf

Or, here is some useful info, too: Charging System Diagnostics - Rectifier/Regulator Upgrade - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums (although, when he says that at idle battery voltage should be 13V+, that does not apply to MY bike; I don't know if it does to yours)
uncalcetindelana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
Claudius
King of the Hopeless
 
Claudius's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,068
Gameroom cash: $23858
Sportbike: Off in the Land of Yamaha.
Thanks: 3
Thanked 204 Times in 113 Posts
Claudius is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by USAFgsxr750again View Post
GET A BATTERY TENDER!!! It'll solve most of your future problems. while i have owned/used one, never had a battery go bad. the longest i've had the stock battery in any of my bikes was the Busa... 5 years... then i sold the bike. grrr. i seem to have bike adhd
This.

If you do have to replace it you should seriously consider one of the lithium ion batteries. They are lighter big time and tend to hold a charge well over time.
Claudius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 08:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
Aerythus
Spiffy...
 
Aerythus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southport, NC
Age: 35
Posts: 2,345
Gameroom cash: $15564
Sportbike: 2007 Kawasaki 650r Ninja, 1991 KX 125
Thanks: 577
Thanked 428 Times in 304 Posts
Aerythus is on a distinguished road
Default

Push starting is not going to damage the bike physically, but like Uncal said, can cause electrical issues. The first one that comes to mind is an exploding battery. It is unlikely, but I've seen it before on a lawnmower; started it with a bad battery in it, using the pull starter. After a few minutes, boom.
__________________
My frame up 650R Ninja build.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nidyanazo View Post
...the largest and most knowledgable group of motorcycle assholes on the net!

<---official SBN welcome sign
Aerythus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 08:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
uncalcetindelana
500 GP Racer
 
uncalcetindelana's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Punta Arenas, Chile
Age: 27
Posts: 869
Gameroom cash: $13018
Sportbike: 1995 Ducati 916; 2002 Ducati M750Sie
Thanks: 797
Thanked 258 Times in 155 Posts
uncalcetindelana is on a distinguished road
Default

By the way, are you a member of any specific zx6 forums? That's always a good thing, to find a good brand/model specific forum.

You wouldn't believe how much wisdom I've found in the Ducati forum. My bike would not be running without it.

There, you can search/ask what battery is recommended for your bike.
uncalcetindelana is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Did Heated Gear Kill My FZ6 Battery? And Battery Tender or New Battery? Pseudo-Fed FZ6/FZ6R 17 11-15-2010 05:16 PM
Is it the battery or the bike? T-RO Help Me Fix It 10 05-08-2010 11:34 PM
Should bike run without battery? GR78 Help Me Fix It 59 10-28-2003 03:09 PM
car battery and bike battery tilua Kawasaki Sportbikes 2 02-10-2002 09:37 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:47 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
1997 - 2007 Sportbikes.net INC. All Rights Reserved.
Motorcycle News, Videos and Reviews
Honda Grom Forum Harley Davidson Honda 600RR Kawasaki Forum Yamaha R6
1199 Panigale Roadglide Forum Honda CBR1000 Vulcan Forum Yamaha R1
Ducati Monster Harley Forums Honda CBR250R ZX10R Forum Star Raider
Suzuki GSXR V-Rod Forums Honda Shadow Kawasaki Motorcycles Star Warrior
SV650 Forum BMW S1000RR Honda Fury Kawasaki Versys Drag Racing
Suzuki V-Strom BMW K1600 Triumph Forum Victory Forums Sportbikes
Volusia Forum BMW F800 Triumph 675 MV Agusta Forum Streetfighters