Palomar run

[BeeGee]

Originally Posted by UltimateOG

The continentals that are on them i put on back in september and october, they aren't "old".

what kind of continentals are they? And why did you choose continental? I'm curious

[UltimateOG]

Originally Posted by BeeGee

what kind of continentals are they? And why did you choose continental? I'm curious

They are the ContiMotion sport touring tires. I chose them because they were about 40 bucks cheaper per tire than the Michelin tires and I was on a very tight budget at the time. Also I picked them in hopes of them lasting awhile for the type of riding and commuting that I do on my bike.

[Razzy]

Run some decent tires for twisties. You will sleep easier at night knowing you are using a "better" tire for the job. Can you use a sport touring tire for hard twisties? Sure, but there is a better option. If you have the funds an want to increase your confidence and skill set, the correct step is to get your preffered street/sport tire. There are many options. Do your research.

I've done my share of shenanigans on the street, but there is a time and place for things. Track is the best option for pushing your abilities and bike but some times it's okay to push yourself a little and enjoy yourself in the twisty bits.

[danny500r]

Originally Posted by Razzy

Run some decent tires for twisties. You will sleep easier at night knowing you are using a "better" tire for the job. Can you use a sport touring tire for hard twisties? Sure, but there is a better option. If you have the funds an want to increase your confidence and skill set, the correct step is to get your preffered street/sport tire. There are many options. Do your research.

I've done my share of shenanigans on the street, but there is a time and place for things. Track is the best option for pushing your abilities and bike but some times it's okay to push yourself a little and enjoy yourself in the twisty bits.

I commute far more on my bike then I ride canyons, so the sport touring types work best for me. The continentals work good enough for the canyons, you just can't really push them too hard. If I only rode weekends and could afford new tires every 3-4k I'd definitely put something stickier on them but with a 40 mile round trip commute daily, they wouldn't last long.

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by danny500r

I commute far more on my bike then I ride canyons, so the sport touring types work best for me. The continentals work good enough for the canyons, you just can't really push them too hard. If I only rode weekends and could afford new tires every 3-4k I'd definitely put something stickier on them but with a 40 mile round trip commute daily, they wouldn't last long.

Fair enough. It depends from rider to rider and the "common" use of the motorcycle. My post was more directed to OP.

I commute probably 15% of my total seat time. The other 85% is twisties and focused riding. This is why I run Bridgestone BT016's. Although I'm wondering if I should put on Pirelli's or Dunlop's version of semi street/track tire.

[kevin_stevens]

Again, my perception is that the OP was not riding hard enough for the difference between a sport-touring vs a street/sport tire to matter. I don't think he should be chalking his experiences up to his tires, or feel that he doesn't have adequate equipment to support his riding practice.

KeS

[danny500r]

Originally Posted by kevin_stevens

Again, my perception is that the OP was not riding hard enough for the difference between a sport-touring vs a street/sport tire to matter. I don't think he should be chalking his experiences up to his tires, or feel that he doesn't have adequate equipment to support his riding practice.

KeS

I agree, I just happen to feel the same as OG with the same tires on my F4i. Sometimes they just don't feel very grounded, but I'm also not in the canyons often enough to keep them round and I do have a flat spot on my rear. Last time I went through w/ 35/35 and it felt better then the first couple times I went through @ 32/32, but still felt off on somewhere. Could be rookie riding, could be suspension, could be the tires, who knows.

Completely different canyon too btw, I like to hang out up in San Gabriel and I avoid Ortega. I'd love to do Palomar, but it's at least a 1 1/2 hour ride just to get there.

[kevin_stevens]

Had an interesting experience on my last trip to Palomar. A friend and I were at the end of a longish east country ride - out the 94, across to Pine Valley, Julian, Wynola Road, Mesa Grande, then up the backside of Palomar and we stopped at the top at Mother's. There was a semi heading past us, and I didn't see which way it went, so I wanted to give it plenty of time to get down in front of us if need be.

So after about five minutes, a nice BMW R1200RT comes down from the observatory, nicely attired ATGATT rider, and heads down the mountain. I mention to my friend that I hope he doesn't get caught up behind the truck, we wait another few minutes, and then head down south grade.

I swear we weren't a quarter of the way down the mountain (it's seven miles) before we come up on the BMW rider toddling his way down. He kindly moved over for me and I blew by his R1200RT - on my 1987 K100RS.

Can't imagine what he was thinking - we were *not* going fast, and he hadn't stopped to take a picture or anything (it took my friend awhile to get past him, and he reported he was just that slow). Props for riding his ride and staying in his comfort zone, but THAT bike with THAT rider going THAT slow, it was just funny. Then to be passed by a 25-year-old specimen...

KeS

[Razzy]

Originally Posted by kevin_stevens

Had an interesting experience on my last trip to Palomar. A friend and I were at the end of a longish east country ride - out the 94, across to Pine Valley, Julian, Wynola Road, Mesa Grande, then up the backside of Palomar and we stopped at the top at Mother's. There was a semi heading past us, and I didn't see which way it went, so I wanted to give it plenty of time to get down in front of us if need be.

So after about five minutes, a nice BMW R1200RT comes down from the observatory, nicely attired ATGATT rider, and heads down the mountain. I mention to my friend that I hope he doesn't get caught up behind the truck, we wait another few minutes, and then head down south grade.

I swear we weren't a quarter of the way down the mountain (it's seven miles) before we come up on the BMW rider toddling his way down. He kindly moved over for me and I blew by his R1200RT - on my 1987 K100RS.

Can't imagine what he was thinking - we were *not* going fast, and he hadn't stopped to take a picture or anything (it took my friend awhile to get past him, and he reported he was just that slow). Props for riding his ride and staying in his comfort zone, but THAT bike with THAT rider going THAT slow, it was just funny. Then to be passed by a 25-year-old specimen...

KeS

yep. It happens. Could be many reasons. Not skilled or comfortable enough where it counts, didn't want to risk his shiny bmw, not enough balls, and the list goes on and on.

[stnkbg1]

Originally Posted by kevin_stevens

Props for riding his ride and staying in his comfort zone, but THAT bike with THAT rider going THAT slow, it was just funny. Then to be passed by a 25-year-old specimen...

Nothing wrong with riding a safe and comfortable pace. If you think that's bad, I've passed guys on newer 600 Super Sports on my 1981 CB750 cafe bike, with big knobby dual sport tires on it going up Palomar. They certainly had the equipment advantage, but I had the experience on the mountain, and a certain level of comfort with the bike, even if it's older than I am.