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I just picked up a Z1000. The biggest thing that surprised me was how so many of the bikes contact points had parts there that looked like they were made to be replaced. You can see on the exhaust and on the right side of the motor, that the contact points are covered. One of those silver engine covers only costs like $60 to replace. The side fairing things are only like $40. Handlebars are cheap and you can find em for $30. Although a Dirtbike or SM might be cheaper outright, it would seem to me that if you want to get comfortable on a big sportbike, you're better off riding a big sportbike.
Ok, I'll add the F4i. That's kind of what I was looking to hear - there's messing up a case cover, and then there's messing up a case cover that oh by the way is 1 mm from the end of the crank and smashes the timing sensor for $200 any time you drop the bike on that side. That kind of surprise is what I'm trying to avoid.
I'm still confused what you intend to do with this bike other then crash it that is. Do you want to do stunts?
Not stunts per se, just practice different riding maneuvers. Do you ever need to come to a stop and then back up? Do you do that by stopping hard to compress the forks, and then let the rebound assist or execute the reversing? With your feet up? Turning?
Front braking with your wheel turned coming to a stop, so it kind of highsides the bike over gently if you want to put your other foot down? Doing a little 6" stoppy with a 180* to land the rear so you are headed out of a parking space?
There's a bunch of stuff like that you practice (or I do) daily, but it gets to be risky on a heavy and expensive bike. That's why I have ABS and traction control - they let me practice threshold braking and acceleration on a daily basis, while keeping the risk level low enough for me to be comfortable with it. But I can't very well ride around with "slide bike" outriggers. I want something that I can take out and practice dynamics on, with less mass to control and without having to worry too much about a $$$$ drop.
So bascially stunts that could technically be useful in every day situations. Yeah I can see that getting risky. If you do (or lean to do) that stuff as the situation calls for it w/o thinking about it that is impressive.
I would die if i saw in person some one casually ride up and do a 90 degree spin while doing a stoppie (rear wheel 6" off the ground) to park his bike and casually walk away. Would absolutely hilarious - in a good way.
So bascially stunts that could technically be useful in every day situations. Yeah I can see that getting risky. If you do (or lean to do) that stuff as the situation calls for it w/o thinking about it that is impressive.
I would die if i saw in person some one casually ride up and do a 90 degree spin while doing a stoppie (rear wheel 6" off the ground) to park his bike and casually walk away. Would absolutely hilarious - in a good way.
I've just started to look for corners I can try "backing in" on. It's really fun when it works right but when something "hiccups" it scared you half to death.
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