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post #16 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-03-2012, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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Glad you didn't wreck and get hurt.

What did you mean though by "blue pickup truck was tailgating the back of the front pack", I didn't notice any tailgaiting, unless it took place before that section of the video.
ya sorry...earlier in the video he was tailgating my motorcycle group bad....when what you saw in the video happened the pack was out of view because of the truck.
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Looks to me like you clipped him a bit....
it sounded like i hit him when it happened...but i looked at my bike...zero damage....i was surprised
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he probably rides a Harley... signals are optional....





























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I couldn't tell...was he making a left turn or cutting you off from passing?
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Hmmm. I watched the video a few times, and thats all I can base my opinion on.

From the video, it looks likes the OP was about to pass the truck and was surprised when the truck turned left. The OP was hugging the right side of the road and drifted left to pass the truck.
Trucks don't magically turn 90 degrees, especially at 30 miles an hour--the guy had to slow down to turn left, and the OP was coming too fast and didn't see the speed change.

In my opinion, the OP was very lucky he didn't hit the guy, cause it would 100% be his fault.

So the truck didn't indicate a left turn----big deal, it happens literally every day. If the OP was paying attention, he would have been able to slow down or even stop if necessary.
Locking the front end like that tells me he was not paying attention.

Anyway, I'm real happy he didn't go down. Thats the type of video I would love to see at MSF.

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Hmmm. I watched the video a few times, and thats all I can base my opinion on.

From the video, it looks likes the OP was about to pass the truck and was surprised when the truck turned left. The OP was hugging the right side of the road and drifted left to pass the truck.
Trucks don't magically turn 90 degrees, especially at 30 miles an hour--the guy had to slow down to turn left, and the OP was coming too fast and didn't see the speed change.

In my opinion, the OP was very lucky he didn't hit the guy, cause it would 100% be his fault.

So the truck didn't indicate a left turn----big deal, it happens literally every day. If the OP was paying attention, he would have been able to slow down or even stop if necessary.
Locking the front end like that tells me he was not paying attention.

Anyway, I'm real happy he didn't go down. Thats the type of video I would love to see at MSF.

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Glad you're ok and way to react and avoid an accident, but after watching the vid I tend to agree with the above statement. The pickup was wrong for not signaling but it looked to me as if he was already slowing down with the intent to turn. He probably had no clue you were there until the last second.
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Two things. First, that's the problem with trying to pass someone on a road like that. There were too many spots for him to turn left, and he found one. It's dangerous to pass in that spot. Sometimes you just gotta sit there until you get a clear spot with no roads or driveways off to the left.

Second, that braking was weak. Look at your front fork. It hardly compresses. You were barely using your front brake. The squealing is your rear locking up.

Bottom line, the whole thing was your fault. It was easily avoidable with a modicum of road savvy and riding skill.

As a final note, it looks like maybe the guy's brake lights were out. I might have followed him to let him know that.

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Yeah, glad you're OK, but you were definitely coming in too hot to read the situation. You can hear yourself slowing down as you approached the truck & then speeding back up to pass.

I always sit behind the car in front of me for at least 5-10 seconds before passing. If you'd done that or at least kept your original high speed, you might have gotten by with no issues.
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Too many places to turn left for a safe pass imo. Good job on keeping the bike right side up though. Live and learn.
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Gald to see some reasoning!

Dont see why some are calling the truck driver an asshole...
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Gald to see some reasoning!

Dont see why some are calling the truck driver an asshole...
I see worse drivers all the time. However turning like that without signaling, and if he really cut inbetween a pack of bikes, well that isn't exactly gold star driving.
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I see worse drivers all the time. However turning like that without signaling, and if he really cut inbetween a pack of bikes, well that isn't exactly gold star driving.
Without having any empirical data, I want to say that over 80% of the drivers dont use turn signals anymore. I learned not to trust other drivers, specially if for one reason or anoter, I am aproaching them faster than I should.

The gap between the rider and the truck dimished fairly quick. Cant tell if the rider was going faster than the truck, or if the truck driver reduced its speed fairly quick. Either way, you dont pass a vehicle on a one lane road, right after reducing such gap.

The car in front of you has the right of way, even if they forgot to use their turn signals.
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When I vacationed in FL I noticed nobody uses their signals! Also, the speed limit signs are so far apart. It was definitely a noticeable difference compared to my part of the country.

I'm usually super careful when passing in such situations. I've gotten more paranoid after watching all those Youtube videos...
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Second, that braking was weak. Look at your front fork. It hardly compresses. You were barely using your front brake. The squealing is your rear locking up.
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I don't think that the front brake was used at all. Anytime you touch the front brake you have that initial 1-1.5" dive as the weight transfers to the front.

Lots of people try and tell me how I'm crazy for riding a sport bike....but having started on dirt and worked my way up from 2 250s, a 650, and a weaker 1000 before I got my ZX10R, I can say that I was ready for it and felt comfortable on it...I'd even say that I felt safe on it.

For the life of me, I don't understand how anyone can ride an SS 600 let alone an SS 1000 without really knowing how to jam on that front brake. These bikes are just too fast to ride without knowing how to properly use the front brake.
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