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Old 11-22-2012, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I bought an SV650 yesterday, but there was a notary error on the title (The notary wrote the commission expiration as 11-25-10 initially, then wrote over the 0 to make it a 4. DMV refused to accept it.) I don't know when I will get to meet up with her to redo it, and I'm very much itching to ride the damn thing. Like really, really bad, before the season is completely over. Fortunately, she forgot her plates on the bike (she drove it to my house for me) when she left, so I still have street legal plates on the bike. I even have the insurance for it (since I need the insurance before I apply for the title.) I messaged her asking if she'd be OK with me riding on her plates, and am waiting for her reply. As far as I can figure, the bike is both insured (under my name) and has legal registration. Only thing I DON'T have is the registration card.

My question is, if she agrees to let me do this, and if I were to be pulled over on her plates, would I only get a citation for not having her registration with me? I'm insured, after all. I have no intention of getting pulled over anyway, but if that were to happen, it's not like I'd lose my license or bike, would I?

And please don't say "I would just wait until the title was worked out", I just want to see what kind of trouble I'd get in (if any).
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No registration in NJ is an automatic impound.

but I have to be honest if I had her plates I would probably lie and say I was moving it for my friend and she left her registration in her jacket.

But its totally your risk.... The obvious and safe answer is wait till they unfuck the paperwork.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In nc as long as the bike is insured and reg'ed it doesn't really matter who owns it.

I drove my old jeep on my bro's plates with my insurance for two years due to a titling conflict. It never was an issue.

Yes you can get cited for no reg card but the officer can get that info in a matter of seconds.

I caution you that when you do get insurance you or have the "titled" owner to contact the dmv and give then the new policy number.

But yes the safest way is to a wait till the paperwork is in order.
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Awesome turn of events; she said the registration is under the seat, which it is. There's no proof of insurance, but with her registration and my insurance, I cannot imagine it would be much of an issue.
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Its no different that driving someone elses car, as far as registration. If its legally registered, its all good. You have a bill of sale so the bike is yours, no matter who is presently registered to the plates, as long as they are active, and your within the 30 day grace period normally to change them over..

If a cop pulled you over and it even became a question, just tell the truth, that you just bought the bike and there was an error made on the title, that your in the process of correcting.

Now the question is how is the Notary supposed to fix the error better?
She better accompany a note along with what ever repair attempt. So you dont have to attempt round 3.

But I bet you go back to a different DMV teller and they accept it, Did you also have a Bill of sale, Im surprised they couldnt look at that , and believe it was just a corrective error attempt on that one number.
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The DMV agent told me it had to be re-notarized in the "dealer" box below it. On the title it has an assignment "by owner" and then another "By dealer". They're identical except that the Dealer box has a line for the dealer number.

I don't have a bill of sale (not required by the state), but I had her fill out a damage disclosure and odometer reading thingy. I have 3 pieces of paper with her signature on it. I also plan on going to the DMV with her tomorrow to make sure this crap doesn't happen a second time.

With registration, legal plates, and my own insurance (not to mention her insurance), I cannot imagine I'd get in any trouble, especially since she told me she had no problem with me driving on her plates. Only ticket I could possibly get is not having HER insurance card; whoopdifreakin' do, I've been pulled over once (officially) and insurance/registration wasn't even mentioned, I don't believe. Maybe he asked for insurance, but he definitely didn't ask for registration; he was in too much a hurry to write me a ticket.

On a side note, this bike was a wicked great deal. All the fork work has already been done, integrated tail lights, TFI, gear indicator, yoshi pipe and can, only complaint is it's been lowered cuz the woman who owned it was 5' 2". Only OTHER complaint is how unexpectedly fast this bike is... I'm not even a total "beginner" and an eighth of the throttle is more than enough for me. Transition from cruiser to sport is going to be slightly more difficult than originally believed.
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If she canceled her insurance already nc will be receiving a notice and they will put a hold/revoked on your plate. Any laps in insurance will flag.

Best of luck to you and ride safe.

What area of the state are you in?

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For one, I highly doubt she's canceled it already, and for two, she'd be insane to do so without first turning in her plates, seeing as you'd automatically be fined up the hoo-haa by the state for having a plated vehicle without insurance. Besides, we did the sale yesterday; today was thanksgiving, everything's closed. That would really suck though.

I live in good 'ol Rutherford county, which is 2 hours west of Charlotte. Moved here about two years ago and have done almost no riding of any kind since I got here, mostly because the bike my dad and I owned was a POS and broke down every time I ever tried to take it anywhere.
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Well if you ever find your self down by the beach pm me. I'm always up for a ride

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