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post #76 of 82 (permalink) Old 11-12-2012, 07:00 AM
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I don't understand something about these recent posts.

The OP wants the bike for the street. Deltapapa, do you really care about the extra HP?

What does "outperform" mean, really?

I understand Bender's post, in the sense that yes, as a sportbike -meant for the track, for racing-, the R1 has fallen behind a little in terms of what you get out of the box. But in this case, and in MANY people's case, it would be absolutely delusional to put that as reason not to get the R1 over the BMW if you prefer the sound, power delivery, looks, or whatever.

I ride my bike on the street. Have never gone much above a 100 mph; riding a bike to me is about the full sensual experience: looks, sound, feel. If the OP is anything like myself in this regard, then he should test ride both bikes and see for himself. Perhaps he will value the extra technology on the BMW, perhaps he will not.

I already put in my little two cents, becuase the BMW is awesome. But I rode it again yesterday, and even though I stand by my opinion, I just wanted to get back on my old underpowered bike from the nineties. Numbers, numbers, numbers...

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I can not tell you much about the R1. I can tell you that I have a 2012 BMW and I love it. I have 6k miles on it so far and I have ridden it in all types of weather... on the track and street... about to take it to the dragstrip. The BMW can save your arse when you make a mistake and that is a plus for me (I am not perfect). Also I believe I will get a whole lot of life out of the BMW. I dont know about the R1 for sure but I plan on going well over 100k. These are a couple of thigns I like about the BMW.
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Ita LPMR moment ,it will pass . He is doing one of his hissy fit jesus things . All is fine if he is spreading the word and operating his revolving garage church . Making statments having people thank his statment ,thanking the people for thanking his stament ,all in a big group blowjob session . But now and then some come who dont agree ,they dont thank, they poopoo the revolving garage as false worship !!!. LPMR then has a hissy fit ,makes some swears , maybe puts up some pics of his guns , reminds everyone he is 6ft4 and 240lbs , perhaps issues a "get off my laaaawwn" threat , withdraws his image from the walls of the revolving garage should the unworthy gaze upon it .. then he stomps off and goes quiet for a few weeks .Comes back once he thinks everyone has forgotten that someone questioned the words of gospel and the charter of the revolving garage ... All normal and amuses me much .
I'll post a "I'm a new rider and want to start on a 600" thread. That will bring him back.

PS. I have a 2010 R1 and did all kind of mods like ohlins suspension and brembo brakes. Graves exhaust and all kinds of gilles hop-ups. Clip-ons etc etc. It's still not as good as my buddies BWM. Nuff Said.

One thing that my R1 is up on is the ergo's for a 6'4" like me. Very comfortable. I feel the power delivery is also smoother than the BMW. Just less of it.

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Take it for what it's worth, but my Busa begged me to go as the BMW for Halloween!!! IJS

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Take it for what it's worth, but my Busa begged me to go as the BMW for Halloween!!! IJS
and you know you liked it.don't deny that as soon as you away from the 'busa,you dress as the bmw....c'mon...admit it!! lol
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If you are buying it for the thrill, get the S1000RR

If you are buying for the fun , the R1. The sounds is ecstasy !
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The OP wants the bike for the street. Deltapapa, do you really care about the extra HP?
I understand Bender's post, in the sense that yes, as a sportbike -meant for the track, for racing-, the R1 has fallen behind a little in terms of what you get out of the box. But in this case, and in MANY people's case, it would be absolutely delusional to put that as reason not to get the R1 over the BMW if you prefer the sound, power delivery, looks, or whatever.

I ride my bike on the street. Have never gone much above a 100 mph; riding a bike to me is about the full sensual experience: looks, sound, feel. If the OP is anything like myself in this regard, then he should test ride both bikes and see for himself. Perhaps he will value the extra technology on the BMW, perhaps he will not. nico
I'm 100% with you nico...

I've had so many bikes over the years and I've always bought a bike for its look, ergo and feel.

Numbers don't mean too much to me as I won't be able to use the full potential of the bike (SS 1000cc), not even close!

I have well over 500,000 kms experience on street bikes (mostly sport bikes) and I've had more than 40 bikes... I've done many track days, got my Fast I, II and III and still, numbers don't matter to me as I ride on the public roads where you cannot use the full potential of a sport bike even you can...

I hear this all the time ''this bike lack in HP's compare to...'' when I buy a new bike. I always reply that it doesn't matter as I don't have the skills to ride it at its full potential...

A rider should buy a bike he likes for his own reasons, values etc...

We're not all the same, this is why there are so many different bikes out there...

To conclude, the BMW is an awsome bike and I think the R1 is too.

Al. (2012 FZ1 & 2012 R1)

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