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Where are you guys getting the idea that you are getting a new R1 for anywhere less then $12,000 after 2006?
I'm sick of people, specifically you, Making Shit Up (tm) to try to prove their point. I don't know why it's so fucking hard to just say something that's accurate, realistic, and to the point.
That's not "sharing what you paid" - that's implying that the OP can get a new bike for that, vs having to pay MSRP for a new BMW. It's not an accurate comparison. It's intellectually dishonest. It's bullshit.
Then every single number you cite is lowballed on the R1 side: throttle percentage, pricing (yes, I noticed that you backed up a $9K price with a $10K plus warranty price) - power gains. It's all bullshit - or at least so much of it is bullshit that it's not worth trying to pull out any kernel of truth from it.
Which people are you talking about? The OP? He just asked for input so he DIDN'T have to rely on reviews. Me? I don't care about R1s at all - why would I want to try one? Who are you ranting about? This is called a straw man argument - making up a position that nobody is espousing and beating the crap out of it. Again, intellectually dishonest.
Bullshit. How do you know that they would be a completely different story? Maybe they would rate the R1 differently - maybe they wouldn't. Maybe that fighting 4HP wouldn't be enough to change the relative position. Maybe if they gave every bike the opportunity to add warranty-revoking aftermarket mods, the R1 would still not win. And DAMN those magazine reviewers for quoting current year MSRP on all their bikes, instead of the local post-hurricane remainder price for just the R1!
Stop lying. Stop Making Shit Up (tm). Stop the bullshit. Stop the blustering. Can't you? Can't you just say what you like about the R1 without weaving some kind of oppressed-underdog-fairy-tale-conspiracy-nonsense story around it?
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Sorry guys, I mean no offense. I normally respect both your opinions, even when I disagree, but you guys reminded me of this:
|I think the more important differences would be the distinctive sound of the cross-plane R1, and the power delivery differences between the two bikes. Which of those appeal to you, and do you want ABS or not?|
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Stop lying. Stop Making Shit Up (tm). Stop the bullshit. Stop the blustering. Can't you?
Fine, if I'm "constantly" making stuff up, show me one other thread where that's the case. Not sure what the hell is your problem all of the sudden.
I'm probably a lot more helpful than most members here, and I always go out of my way to put out well written and thought-out posts with actual information.
Think I need a break from this place. Seriously, fuck you guys.
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