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Old 11-25-2012, 05:03 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Thanks articamt6 for your input. Sounds like their both good choices.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:09 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Ever tried to tell the wife that perhaps slightly lower heels would be comfier and then she would not need to complain about her feet of an evening .
I've never dated shallow women. Must be an English thing. But I know what you mean about trying to talk someone out of a decision they are dead set on making, even if its a poor one.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but how is this a bad decision ? I'm really not a fan at all of un faired bikes.

I mean I thought this is how the process works, you start small ride a couple thousand miles the. Upgrade to what you want.
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I rode for one year and put 10k on my ninja 500. A months after getting my 750 I high sided at 35mph hurt like crap.

Looking back I made to much of a jump in power and wasent rdy for it.

You have a good understanding of motorcycling but me and other people on this forum have learned the hard way and we're trying to help you avoid an accident.

Best of luck to you. Take it slow and be safe.

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Thanks. I'm not trying to be stubborn or argue at all. I'm all ears. I don't wanna do anything stupid.

Would you mind going into detail about your slide? If not I totally understand.

I'm always open to learn.

What should the jump be? I thought it was 250, then 600 if you want one. But please feel free to describe what jumps you should makez
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That's also something I was wondering about. Don't the 600 and 750 have the same seating position ? Or is there a difference?
Brock, the 600 and 750 are pretty much identical in all aspects except the 750 has more rotational mass located in the motor due to larger cylinders. The geometry and such is all the same and most parts are interchangeable. Overall the 750 is a 600 on steroids.
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If you don't go with the 750 my next choice would be a Street Triple. Down low it feels arguably better than the 750 on the street at legal speeds due to the inline 3, it's more comfortable though Suzuki's are known to be the most comfortable SS bikes period and they can be had new for cheap. The Street Triple is such a great bike I plan on getting one as my next bike. I rode one recently and was amazed at how great of a bike that it is.
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Thanks for the info!

I do like the way they look. I like the Ducati monster also.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but how is this a bad decision ? I'm really not a fan at all of un faired bikes.

I mean I thought this is how the process works, you start small ride a couple thousand miles the. Upgrade to what you want.
A couple thousand miles? You can do that riding a freeway. The Ninja 650 is faired and a much better bike then a GSX-R600 for 90% of motorcycling applications. Not many are sold on your grasp after your less then stellar 250 time. However, it's your decision. Do what you want. If you go for the 600 realize its a lot less forgiving at EVERYTHING. Be safe.
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I was turning left out of my parents driveway two Thanksgivings ago. I hit a patch of sand. Tail end kicked out and I started to fish tail with the rear end still spinning. I attempteded to grab the clutch when the bike was straight and hit the gas again to change the momentum from side-to-side to forward....... We'll I ended up flying 20ish feet throught the air and landed on my face.... Yep first thing to hit the ground was the helmet just above my right eye.
I've hit sand b4 in a turn and had the tail kick out. It really wasn't a big deal with the throttle and the power of the 500. But my model gsxr had a quarter turn throttle and about 2.5 times the power. I ended up giving it most of the power when the tail kicked out from the sand.
Part of it was human error (not noticing the patch of sand, giving the bike to much power) and some was the bike was to much for me to handle at the time.

I know the feeling you having man. I had most of my riding buddies telling me that the 750 was to big if a jump in power, but I didn't care and ended up crashing my face into the ground. I wanted the and no one was going to change my mind. Also I had been riding the for 7 months (I believe) and I thought I knew about the bike.

Like I said b4 if your going to get the bike regardless of what we say then Plz do me/us a favor and atgatt and take it slow. Supersport bikes have a way of telling you your doing something wrong in the most painful way possible.

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A couple thousand miles? You can do that riding a freeway. The Ninja 650 is faired and a much better bike then a GSX-R600 for 90% of motorcycling applications. Not many are sold on your grasp after your less then stellar 250 time. However, it's your decision. Do what you want. If you go for the 600 realize its a lot less forgiving at EVERYTHING. Be safe.
Agreed. A season on the 250 may be enough for some, but members of this forum are going to be conservative and recommend an intermediate step no matter what. I still think in your case fixing the 250 is the best (and cheapest) route, but if you feel you need a new bike a 650 sportbike is the 2nd best option. Chances are you'll be fine on the supersport, but like RT said, be safe.

If you do go all the way I'd recommend spending plenty of time in a big parking lot as if you're starting over again. You don't want to risk finding out where the bike is more unforgiving in the middle of heavy traffic.
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Also side note. My roommate has a custom build 650r and he could take me off the line every time and we would stay with me up to the 1/4 mile mark. Anything above that is speeding and that's illegal..... You shouldn't do illegal stuff! :-P



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Thanks everyone for the responses. The reason I haven't repaired the 250 is because trying to get the insurance to pay for it, I was concerned that if I repair it they may not want to compensate me. Idk if that's true or not. It was just a thought.

I appreciate everyone's input.

Is a quarter turn throttle an aftermarket modification?
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Yes, it shortens the amount you have to twist the throttle to get to full throttle. Either aftermarket, or in my case, you use a different bike's throttle tube. For instance, on the stock Daytona 675, you have to re-grip to go from idle to wide open throttle. By replacing it with a $10 throttle tube from a Speed Triple, I can do the full range without having to regrip.


And it's all up to how well you know yourself if going from a 250 -> 600 is the right decision. I put 4k on my Ninja 250, and then bought my first Daytona 675. It was the right decision for me.
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If you read my original post about the accident you will see that the accident wasn't my fault. It was either hit the truck or break and dip and not hit the truck.
Hit the truck and get hurt
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Don't hit the truck and walk away
Yeah, you had to lay her down... And sliding on its side it didn't hit the truck, which means, IT WAS THE WRONG CALL. If sliding on plastic and metal could stop it in time, you could have stopped it faster on its wheels, you wrecked in a rather noob like fashion, yet you are not willing to learn from your mistake...


You'll wreck again, hope you haven't run out of luck when it happens.

Seriously, you didn't had the skills to control a Ninja 250 in a complicated situation that was completely salvageable, and you think that your "couple thousand miles" of experience will help you do better on a less forgiving bike? The Ninja 250 already showed you how poor your skills are, it chew and spit you...
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