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Old 11-02-2012, 09:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by cobravenom452 View Post
IMO I believe that any one person can safely move up to a 1000 with the proper amount of restraint. I say this because even though a 1000 makes more than enough power for the street at 4000 rpm, it is still very tame at that rpm (is not tame past 8k). As long as that person doesn't have the urge to wrap the throttle back ignorantly they should be fine. But generally as a precaution most will say no, because the average person has a certain curiosity of what that bikes capabilities are. As the saying goes, curiosity killed the cat. In this case it killed the noob. As stated anyone "can" move straight to a 1000 from a learner bike, but the learning curve is not forgiving at all. That said If you keep the rpm's low I doubt that using 1/4 throttle at 4000 rpm is going to flip you in the air at 200 mph in first gear, but if not careful it can go from 35 mph at 4000 rpm in first to 90 mph and flip you if your not respectful of the machine and proceed to WOT. The biggest difference in the 600's and 1000's is the torque, on the street many prefer the 1000's because you don't have to exceed the 4000 rpm mark. Whereas with a 600 I'm sure you don't have to ring its neck to go up a slight incline, but a 600's max torque is around 45 ft/lbs at 10,000 rpm where a 1000 makes more that that at the 4k rpm mark. That is where most get into trouble learning with the 1000's. Just my .02 cents.
But this is a case by case basis. Remember just over a year ago when i got my first bike a 2011 Ninja 650R, having never ridden a day prior in my life? I was a "level Headed" rider but i still made plenty of mistakes and dropped that thing left and right. After my bike got vandalized, i went about 6 months bikeless until i got my hands on my Ninja 636 and have been riding pretty darn good so far and only 11,000 miles under my belt.

I would highly suggest that no matter what bike any given rider moves to next, that they should invest plenty of time in MSF courses and parking lot practices to become familiar with the bike from the start instead of just figuring things out.

Oh and luck is a huge factor in riding too.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:11 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I completely agree not getting something like that for a first bike. Not that it's expected to drop your first bike a few times, oh wait, yes you are. That is why someone should never buy a new bike when learning. With that stated once you've gotten past your toddler phase of riding, you can feasibly move up. Would I recommend someone move straight to a 1000? I can't say, as stated above it is a case by case decision that cannot be determined by reading a post on the internet. All I am saying is that I do know some people who have moved to a bigger bike within a year and have been fine. Then again I know a lot of people who have done so and the lack of learning curve bit them big time. What ever the case it is not our decision to make. All we can do is give advise from our own experiences.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:17 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Might be some info for you in this new bike thread I started yesterday. Coming off a GS500 myself.

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I get the highway complaints to some extent, but I cruise around @ 90 on mine. Buzzy as hell, but not hard to get there.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:17 AM   #34 (permalink)
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1000cc bikes have a more linear delivery than the 600 versions and in many ways are often easier to ride . Less gear changing , better torque to play with without needing to rev the nuts off it . A 1000 is really the lazy persons sportbike .
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Originally Posted by USAFgsxr750again View Post
no F'n lie! WOOOOOOOOT
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Came to the thread late but I agree with those saying go for a 600cc. IMO 600s are more fun because you can get on it a little more and not hit warp speed as quick. Fwiw, I had a 600rr and currently ride a z1000. I've ridden friends liter SS's and enjoy my Z way more.

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Originally Posted by OssiferMartin View Post
Okay guys I know you get this a lot but I have a quick scenario for you. I got my first bike last year which was a GS500F and I am selling it soon to upgrade next spring. I was planning on getting either a GSXR 600 or R6. Well I've found a great deal on a '08 CBR1000. I know it's a huge leap in performance but I can tell you(and if you read my name) I'm not out to do wheelies on the highway or go 190 into the City. My concern is... even with a level head will this 1k get me killed? Is the throttle so touchy that I will loose the rear wheel even when I'm not pushing the bike? Any insight will help. Thanks guys. Oh by the way the bike will mainly be used for commuting and some weekend fun.
the longer i've owned sport bikes, the more i wonder why the hell anyone would get one of these things for only street riding and commuting.

if you plan on doing some track days or club racing or some other sort of closed course riding, a cbr1000rr is a great bike. so are the r6 and gsx600r.

if you're going back and forth from work with the occasional "spirited" (read: illegal, because no spirited ride ever involves going the speed limit) ride, keep your current bike or something like it. a sport bike is not something to "graduate" to, it's more like something to ride when you're planning on breaking every motoring law ever written. the street is just not a good place to do that...

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When in motion, squids can be observed to "park" on corner entry and abuse the throttle on any available straight.
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