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for some reason when i think of Honda Civics with big VTEC stickers on the doors, i don't think of fast cars...
Alot of people don't, but alot of people don't know the pleasure of using a car to it's true potential on a circuit, and not to mention alot of people don't know how to drive a car very well at all.
Honda's are very good race cars, they're pretty neutral for an FF layout, Honda has done a really good job of making really good track cars over the years, reliable NA power solid FF handling, really nice, you're probably more into the drag racing and camaro's and such though
What's the difference between your bike saying GSX-R in huge ass letters? than a VTEC equipped civic with VTEC in subtle letter at the bottom portion of the door?
A couple of the main reasons for VTEC's development was to create more torque low down without the aid of forced induction and more cc's, and also for effeciency whilst still having the same high performance, it's pretty genius really, you're almost always high in the rev range whilst racing on a circuit most older VTEC Honda engines had VTEC come in at roughly 5,000 RPM.
You must have missed my post about my Prelude. I've "been there, done that", probably while you were still wearing Pampers...
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You really have to have knowledge of something to criticise.
Oh, golly...
I guess degrees in mechanical and aerospace engineering don't count, huh? Considering one of the professors I worked with was the father of the turbo-jet engine, I think I've got at least a basic ability at banging two sticks together.
Want to discuss advanced materials research, as it relates to the internal combustion engine? You'd be amazed at the kind of stuff we abused, not to mention destroyed. Or perhaps you'd prefer discussing theoretical aerodynamics research for hypersonic air transport?
Before you start questioning someone's intellectual grasp, I'd suggest brushing up on your language skills. You could start with the proper use of zeds, among other things...
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Alot of people don't, but alot of people don't know the pleasure of using a car to it's true potential on a circuit, and not to mention alot of people don't know how to drive a car very well at all.
Honda's are very good race cars, they're pretty neutral for an FF layout, Honda has done a really good job of making really good track cars over the years, reliable NA power solid FF handling, really nice, you're probably more into the drag racing and camaro's and such though
What's the difference between your bike saying GSX-R in huge ass letters? than a VTEC equipped civic with VTEC in subtle letter at the bottom portion of the door?
the true potential of driving a car on a circuit?!?!? we're talking about FWD economy cars here, not sportscars.
i do actually own a camaro, but its a V6 and i know its slow. its reliable and good on gas- when i want to go fast, i'll take the bike.
the difference between the GSXR sticker and VTEC is my bike is fast and has ties to racing, whereas VTEC is about fuel efficiency and emissions out of puny little engines
Honda's are not fast, stop pretending they are
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the true potential of driving a car on a circuit?!?!? we're talking about FWD economy cars here, not sportscars.
i do actually own a camaro, but its a V6 and i know its slow. its reliable and good on gas- when i want to go fast, i'll take the bike.
the difference between the GSXR sticker and VTEC is my bike is fast and has ties to racing, whereas VTEC is about fuel efficiency and emissions out of puny little engines
Honda's are not fast, stop pretending they are
My Prelude didn't do too bad. Though I'd love an explanation for this comment...
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Several American companies were playing around with it during the 50's. But it wasn't pneumatic. And note I typed Honda was the first to use a working version in a production vehicle. But either way we were both wrong.
One could be forgiven for thinking that such a well versed expert would know the difference between what is a hydraulically actuated system and a pneumatic one. I suppose it could just be proof that Honda's marketing spiel, trying to convince owners that the engine in their car has the same tech as Honda's F1 engines, is working...
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...The thing that noobs don't get is that bikes aren't cars. With a car, more or less, you're as fast as your wallet allows. A bike is far more skill oriented. Way more. It's like skiing. You could go buy the fastest race skis available, but if you don't know how to ski, all you're going to do is crash. Its the same, exactly the same with bikes.
You must have missed my post about my Prelude. I've "been there, done that", probably while you were still wearing Pampers...
Oh, golly...
I guess degrees in mechanical and aerospace engineering don't count, huh? Considering one of the professors I worked with was the father of the turbo-jet engine, I think I've got at least a basic ability at banging two sticks together.
Want to discuss advanced materials research, as it relates to the internal combustion engine? You'd be amazed at the kind of stuff we abused, not to mention destroyed. Or perhaps you'd prefer discussing theoretical aerodynamics research for hypersonic air transport?
Before you start questioning someone's intellectual grasp, I'd suggest brushing up on your language skills. You could start with the proper use of zeds, among other things...
General Engineering is actually my major (AA) and I'll probably continue into Mechanical Engineering or Aerospace whilst in the AirForce if I get in.
Oh btw, I for the most part do not use zeds in words that originaly didn't have them, the zeds primarily came about with American English. I spell alot of words in their original British English context, which doesn't make them wrong, if anything moreso right. Just how I roll, might not work to my advantage in Writing class though lol
the true potential of driving a car on a circuit?!?!? we're talking about FWD economy cars here, not sportscars.
i do actually own a camaro, but its a V6 and i know its slow. its reliable and good on gas- when i want to go fast, i'll take the bike.
the difference between the GSXR sticker and VTEC is my bike is fast and has ties to racing, whereas VTEC is about fuel efficiency and emissions out of puny little engines
Honda's are not fast, stop pretending they are
Wow you're so wrong yet don't realize it.
I'm with Hunter, I'm not even going to try to correct you, I wan't to just see you try an explain this
General Engineering is actually my major (AA) and I'll probably continue into Mechanical Engineering or Aerospace whilst in the AirForce if I get in.
I started out with a Mechanical major and an Aerospace minor. If you haven't discovered already, you'll come to find that half the fun is looking at all the stuff around you and having ideas pop into your head of how you could adapt them to completely different applications. Of course, the best part is when someone asks you about something and they stop you because you lost them somewhere around the first few sentences.
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Oh btw, I for the most part do not use zeds in words that originaly didn't have them, the zeds primarily came about with American English. I spell alot of words in their original British English context, which doesn't make them wrong, if anything moreso right. Just how I roll, might not work to my advantage in Writing class though lol
Proper English actually incorporates the zed into much of the written language. In England today the zed is the proper usage, rather than the common, but misused, "ise".
Many people are under the impression that common British English is the more correct historical usage, but it is actually a misconception. American English, with particular reference to the dialects of Appalachia, has a much stronger link with historical English dialects. If you have an interest, I'd suggest looking into the great deal of research that has been done on the subject.
Either way, I wouldn't worry about writing class. My professor was a nut-job who couldn't have cared less about my usage. She was far more interested in trying to shoot down my ideas.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I'll put my slide-rule and pocket-protector away...
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My favorite Video on youtube. Not because the car is stupid fast but how its so damn fast for so little mods. K20a in a 97 Civic hatch. No other mods other than what you have to do for the swap, Intake, Header Exhuast and a tune. Car makes 203/151 to the wheels and does a 13.05 in a car that your grandma could drive. This motor is barely modded, it just had its cherry popped with some bolt ons and a tune. Add a 50 shot for $500 and your running high 12's. Not spectacular but enough to spank rich guy's in 100k cars. The swap does cost around $8000-10,000 on its own though so its not cheap and yes you can make a V-8 go that quick for alot cheaper. But the fact its a FWD hatchback that is still practical is pretty amazing.
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My favorite Video on youtube. Not because the car is stupid fast but how its so damn fast for so little mods. K20a in a 97 Civic hatch. No other mods other than what you have to do for the swap, Intake, Header Exhuast and a tune. Car makes 203/151 to the wheels and does a 13.05 in a car that your grandma could drive. This motor is barely modded, it just had its cherry popped with some bolt ons and a tune. Add a 50 shot for $500 and your running high 12's. Not spectacular but enough to spank rich guy's in 100k cars. The swap does cost around $8000-10,000 on its own though so its not cheap and yes you can make a V-8 go that quick for alot cheaper. But the fact its a FWD hatchback that is still practical is pretty amazing.
A 10k engine swap is pretty ridiculous... especially for what little performance you get even after you completely gut the car. Plus that car sounds GAAAAAAY.
The car I'm building (locost) is probably going to cost about $12k and is going to have a full interior, handle like stink and probably run 10s
The car I'm building (locost) is probably going to cost about $12k and is going to have a full interior, handle like stink and probably run 10s
...Ummm, get a video of that please...
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