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Old 10-23-2008, 08:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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umm if there is no reason for crashing, then "Crashing for no reason" is damn stupid.
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umm if there is no reason for crashing, then "Crashing for no reason" is damn stupid.
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I belong to the "every accident is preventable" crowd.
I find this to be a small crew of loyal followers whom get attacked by the "hugger/asskisser crowd" who love to jump on board and make the accident victim seem like it was nothing to do with him or her. Unfortunately, this Hugger group uses brainwashing tactics and is quite well versed in their talent of shifting blame.
Myself, I really do think every single accident is preventable. Some seem to be quite accepting of the fact that everyone crashes at least once, but not me. I'll never accept that statistic.

you go down = you fucked up....in someway, somehow. hate me for my views now, or later, your choice.

Trust me, I've my share of fuck-ups in the dirt, and none on the street, because I will not give up and let it happen.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I belong to the "every accident is preventable" crowd.
I find this to be a small crew of loyal followers whom get attacked by the "hugger/asskisser crowd" who love to jump on board and make the accident victim seem like it was nothing to do with him or her. Unfortunately, this Hugger group uses brainwashing tactics and is quite well versed in their talent of shifting blame.
Myself, I really do think every single accident is preventable. Some seem to be quite accepting of the fact that everyone crashes at least once, but not me. I'll never accept that statistic.

you go down = you fucked up....in someway, somehow. hate me for my views now, or later, your choice.

Trust me, I've my share of fuck-ups in the dirt, and none on the street, because I will not give up and let it happen.
well what if Yoda is hiding in the bushes,and makes you crash? what then? how is that preventable? the Force, strong with him,it is...

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I belong to the "every accident is preventable" crowd.
I agree, mostly. But a few weeks ago I was on my normal 150 mile loop, in a forest section. Up ahead was a hog two up, and in front of him was a bicyclist. The hog was about to pass the biker, and I was planning on passing the biker and then the hog.

The hog cleared the biker. I was on my final approach to the biker, when, right in front of my freakin face, a doe shot across my bow. I swear I could've reached out and slapped her ass, but she was gone.

If I was running just a tad faster, I would've plowed into her.

Totally unavoidable.
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you go down = you fucked up....in someway, somehow. hate me for my views now, or later, your choice.

Trust me, I've my share of fuck-ups in the dirt, and none on the street, because I will not give up and let it happen.


Keep thinking that way... one of these days fate will teach you the lesson the dirt never did.

To completely discount the possibility of chance having a role in your life is as silly as blaming every accident on external circumstances. There ARE times when you do everything you can, and it's still not enough. That's life.

The irony here is that the people who 'refuse' to go down are usually so scared of messing up that they never take the small risks necessary to push their boundaries and progress as riders. So when life does throw a surprise at them, they're ill-equipped to deal with it... and down they go

Instead of viewing your dirt experiences as 'fuck-ups', you aught to view them for what they are... lessons. Ones that play a much bigger part in your staying upright today than your 'refusal' to go down.

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If I was running just a tad faster, I would've plowed into her.

Totally unavoidable.
But you did avoid it...
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you go down = you fucked up....in someway, somehow.
To the extent of single vehicle accidents, I completely agree.
I'm brand spankin' new to riding, and while I'm out I scan the road constantly for shit that's gonna fuck my day up.
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I agree, mostly. But a few weeks ago I was on my normal 150 mile loop, in a forest section. Up ahead was a hog two up, and in front of him was a bicyclist. The hog was about to pass the biker, and I was planning on passing the biker and then the hog.

The hog cleared the biker. I was on my final approach to the biker, when, right in front of my freakin face, a doe shot across my bow. I swear I could've reached out and slapped her ass, but she was gone.

If I was running just a tad faster, I would've plowed into her.

Totally unavoidable.
you were focused on the biker and the hog and totally missed the doe....very preventable if you didn't have tunnel vision on the two.
you failed to maintain total awareness of all of your surroundings. The doe was there....you didn't see it.
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well what if Yoda is hiding in the bushes,and makes you crash? what then? how is that preventable? the Force is strong with,him...
LOL, when a movie character runs my life, I'll be worried.
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Keep thinking that way... one of these days fate will teach you the lesson the dirt never did.

To completely discount the possibility of chance having a role in your life is as silly as blaming every accident on external circumstances. There ARE times when you do everything you can, and it's still not enough. That's life.

The irony here is that the people who 'refuse' to go down are usually so scared of messing up that they never take the small risks necessary to push their boundaries and progress as riders. So when life does throw a surprise at them, they're ill-equipped to deal with it... and down they go

Instead of viewing your dirt experiences as 'fuck-ups', you aught to view them for what they are... lessons. Ones that play a much bigger part in your staying upright today than your 'refusal' to go down.

I do view my fuck ups as learning lessons. Hence the reason I think the way I do. Everytime i went down in the dirt, it was because of a bad decision on my part. It wasn't because someone else made a rut in the track, or put some obstacle in my way, or the boogey man mysteriously appeared from nowhere.
I don't refuse to go down, someday I might. But the difference is that I will not blame it on the unknown, I will be looking for the WTF did I miss scenario. I won't be blaming some unknown force or some other jackass. I will be looking to where I made the mistake and why I did not see what the signs were.
I do everything I can to prevent myself joining that group that accepts going down at least once as a rule.
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well its simple, usually when a rider goes down for the first time his ego is bruised and is in denial about his riding ability. doesnt just happen with ride. could be driving too. but sometimes shit does happen.
Exactly. Ego gets in the way and most people (though not all) can't/won't/refuse to admit that they outright fucked up.
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But you did avoid it...
It's almost as if the slower speed played a role in not having an accident. Hmmm...
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