If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
General SportbikesThis area is made for sportbikes in general. Posts that dont really belong anywhere else besides here. Questions can be answered and addressed to fully understand certain aspects. If your question is Manufacturer specific please post it there.
I've never bottomed mine out, should I soften it up?
__________________
It's alright if I die on the bike. It's given me more life than it can ever take away.
Now if everybody was going 120 it wouldn't be a fucking problem, would it?
Trust in yourself. Never give up the initiative.
Set the sag properly. You don't want the suspension to bottom.
__________________
For as dumb as you are, even you will remember this. - Lee Ving/ Fear
Ever feel you've been cheated? - Johnny Rotten
I go Beltway blitzin' on my mad mofo musclebike WFO. Its a true choice, a god-like experience if you will. The thought that I could buy the farm in a spectacular fireball...................well, that gives me a stiffie! Tesco Vee/The Meatmen
if the suspension doesn't bottom on the biggest bumps you're hitting you are not using all the possible travel and loosing some low speed pickup that otherwise would be soaked up better. there is a 2" or so rubber bumper on the shock shaft, that's what it is there for. the springs are there for holding up the weight, not controlling how it rides, that's what all the valving inside does. ideally you want to be using all of the available travel for the surface that you are riding on and keeping both wheels on the ground.
Sure, but when you bottom your suspension your tire compresses to take up any left over energy. Your shock can't control the rebound of your tire which can mean less control when you may most need it. If you have your sag set properly, assuming you have the right springs, your suspension will work near it's best. Racers still need to tweak settings from there, but they are running under the most extreme conditions.
__________________
For as dumb as you are, even you will remember this. - Lee Ving/ Fear
Ever feel you've been cheated? - Johnny Rotten
I go Beltway blitzin' on my mad mofo musclebike WFO. Its a true choice, a god-like experience if you will. The thought that I could buy the farm in a spectacular fireball...................well, that gives me a stiffie! Tesco Vee/The Meatmen
if the suspension doesn't bottom on the biggest bumps you're hitting you are not using all the possible travel and loosing some low speed pickup that otherwise would be soaked up better. there is a 2" or so rubber bumper on the shock shaft, that's what it is there for. the springs are there for holding up the weight, not controlling how it rides, that's what all the valving inside does. ideally you want to be using all of the available travel for the surface that you are riding on and keeping both wheels on the ground.
if the suspension doesn't bottom on the biggest bumps you're hitting you are not using all the possible travel and loosing some low speed pickup that otherwise would be soaked up better. there is a 2" or so rubber bumper on the shock shaft, that's what it is there for. the springs are there for holding up the weight, not controlling how it rides, that's what all the valving inside does. ideally you want to be using all of the available travel for the surface that you are riding on and keeping both wheels on the ground.
Quote:
Originally Posted by YZFHEFF
+1
you don't want the suspension to "bottom" almost bottom yes. but never all the way.
ask any suspension shop. if it bottoms you are left with none and the tire absorbs the rest. in a lean, it bottoms now you're fucked and are most likely going to lowside if the tire gets over loaded.
that rubber bumper is there to keep the shock from being damaged from bottoming.
Last edited by serpentracer; 08-29-2008 at 09:26 AM.
I've never bottomed mine out, should I soften it up?
unfortunately, i feel that suspension is WAY WAY more complicated to set up than that. i highly recommend taking it somewhere where a competent technician can properly set up the sag and initial settings for you. when i went to my first track day, i had a place called turn one racing do this for me. it was relatively inexpensive (like $45 or so) and made a WORLD of difference. it requires you to be on your bike with your gear while they set it all up for you and it takes about 30 minutes, but it will be the best $45 you ever spend.
i have no idea what handling changes will occur for any adjustments i make on my own, hence i leave it alone and call on the pros. i suspect it takes years to figure this stuff out on your own and many more to master...
s3aturnr
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider
When in motion, squids can be observed to "park" on corner entry and abuse the throttle on any available straight.
are you talking about the Katana? If so you're limited in what you can do because the adjustments are few but for sure you should not be bottoming out.