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Drunk Riding (6 points) 34 32.38%
Run From the Cops (5 points) 16 15.24%
Top Speed Run (4 points) 26 24.76%
No Helmet (3 points) 5 4.76%
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Aside from saying most people who wheelie are a danger to others, I agree with the guy completely.

There are way too many new bikers lured into buying a "gixxer" or Hayabusa as their first bike because popular culture presents them as the only alternative unless you want to be uncool. Therefore you get inexperienced bikers buying superbikes they can't afford, crashing them, and having ten grand in debt on a totaled bike.
Thanks for backing me up man!

I gotta say, too, that you do have many valid points, especially the point you made about how arbitrary and oppressive law enforcement has become. Although I won't agree with (can't find who said it...) that law enforcement is solely for creating money for the state, I will agree that it has become so muddled, and police have gained so many powers over regular people, that the police force of today is now far too strict and uses their powers many times for the wrong reasons.

I read a book a year ago called "The Lucifer Effect" that dealt with the Stanford prison experiment that showed that people in power sometimes innately become overzealous with power and treated others cruelly, even if they thought of themselves as a being a nice person that would never harm anyone. With great power, as the book showed, many people became quite evil in nature. Although this cannot and does not get applied to every cop, many cops do exhibit this kind of behavior, and do so more often the more powerful they get.
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Cave Views: Cities tampering with traffic lights to generate revenue

Does your city use red light cameras as “ticket traps” to increase revenue? Some cities do.

The traffic light camera controversy intensifies with the report that some cities are illegally tampering with traffic lights to increase revenue from traffic light cameras.

By using shorter yellow lights in order to issue more traffic tickets, cities are also creating accident hot spots.

If the yellow-light times are set below recognized standards, two things will happen -- traffic tickets will increase and accidents, that otherwise wouldn’t have happened, will increase.

The cities that are using their red light cameras as “ticket traps” are:
1. Chattanooga, Tennessee. The city of Chattanooga was forced refund $8800 in red light cameras tickets issued to motorists trapped by an illegally short yellow time.

2. Dallas, Texas. An investigation by KDFW-TV, a local TV station, found that of the ten cameras that issued the greatest number of tickets in the city, seven were located at intersections where the yellow duration is shorter than the bare minimum recommended by the Texas Department of Transportation.

3. Springfield, Missouri prepared for the installation of a red light camera system in 2007 by slashing the yellow warning time by one second at 105 state-owned intersection signals across the city.

4. Lubbock, Texas. KBCD, a local television station, exposed the city’s short timing of yellow lights at eight of the twelve intersections where the devices were to be installed.

5. Nashville, Tennessee. Even without red light cameras, police in Nashville, Tennessee have been earning hundreds of thousands in revenue by trapping motorists in conventional ticket traps at city intersections with the shortest yellow warning time.

6. Union City, California was caught trapping motorists with a yellow signal time 1.3 seconds below the minimum established by state law. As a result, the city was forced to refund more than $1 million in red light camera fines.
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Traffic Tickets Are Big Business

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October 12th, 2007 Posted in Corruption, Traffic Tickets
Traffic tickets are a multi-billion industry. They have virtually nothing to do with highway safety, but they have everything to do with money!

When you begin to grasp the full magnitude of the public and private interests that depend on ripping off motorists through traffic tickets, you begin to understand why this unethical system continues to expand every year.

No one knows how many traffic tickets are actually issued. Many local units of government deliberately hide this information so they don’t have to split their traffic ticket revenue with the state. Not including parking tickets, we can estimate that somewhere between 25 and 50 million traffic tickets are issued each year. Assuming an average ticket cost of $150.00, the total up front profit from tickets ranges from 3.75 to 7.5 billion dollars.

If just half of these tickets result in insurance surcharges (typically at least $300 over a period of three years), you can add another 3.75 to 7.5 billion dollars in profit for insurance companies. This is why insurance companies "care" so much traffic "safety" programs and are willing to donate millions of dollars worth of radar and laser guns to the police. For them, it’s simple: more tickets equal more money!

Realistically, there is no connection between receiving an occasional traffic ticket and the likelihood of being in an accident. So, there is no justification for charging a person more for auto insurance because they were convicted for a random traffic violation. The purpose of insurance is to cover unusual risk. The act of exceeding an unreasonably low limit is hardly an "unusual risk." That means speeding ticket surcharges are pure profit for the insurance industry.

In total, we’re talking about 7.5 to 15 billion dollars annually from tickets for government agencies and insurance companies. That’s more money than several states take in from all taxes! Worse still, that total doesn’t even include the money that "traffic schools," attorneys, radar-detector manufacturers, and scanner producers make.

To keep the money coming in those that benefit from traffic ticket revenue have to do several things:

Pass enough laws so that anybody can be stopped at anytime and be given a ticket for a traffic violation. Trivial or concocted traffic law violations are also frequently used as an excuse to stop, detain, and search persons for whom the police have no other legitimate reason to do so.
Blow out of proportion the effects of various traffic violations. They constantly talk about "carnage" on our roads, despite the fact that we have the lowest level of traffic fatalities in history.
Maintain a public relations campaign that claims traffic tickets are only given to bad drivers, and that these drivers should pay for the cost of enforcement. This is how you make it appear logical that the police and courts are funded through traffic ticket receipts.
Keep the ticket prices below the pain threshold that would compel motorists to aggressively contest traffic citations in court. They know that if fines got too high, motorist would fight heir tickets, and trials eat up all the profit.
Remove as many due process protections for traffic law offenders as is politically possible. This not only further discourages people from contesting their tickets, but it also ensures that those that do will have a much more difficult time defending themselves.
The police enforce laws that result in direct benefits to police agencies and personnel. Judges hear cases in which a "guilty" verdict would have tangible financially rewards for the court and courthouse personnel. No other class of "crime" is as profitable for state and local governments as is that of traffic tickets. Traffic courts cannot be fair and unbiased when their financial welfare depends on traffic fines. Additionally, local government encourage traffic enforcement practices that rip off travelers to support local government services and to reward government employees. Yet these hypocrisies go largely unnoticed.

A few simple changes can radically alter this unjust system:

No court or police department should directly benefit from the collection of traffic fines.
No police department should be permitted to rate its officers based on how many tickets they write.
No local government should retain traffic fines. The money collected in local courts should be transferred to the state and returned via a local aid formula based on population.
Until these changes are made, you should forget the general notion that traffic tickets are fair and traffic courts are just. The entire system focuses on maximizing income. That’s why most of the people who seriously contest a traffic ticket either win or are offered an good plea bargain. They don’t want anyone "making waves“, that would cost them money. That’s yet another good reason why you should fight your traffic ticket!
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You didn't need to post all of that text, and we all understand that the government makes money off of our tickets. We also know that there can be crooks in law enforcement. That is not the only reason it exists.
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Nothing, and it will continue to stray from the original topic for quite a while. Guess it's a good time to let this one rest.
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I forgot what the poll was... OHHH yea and yes I would have to mark all the above.
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Back on the subject, I got 15 points. I've been very "bad" and that's been very fun.
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Back on the subject, I got 15 points. I've been very "bad" and that's been very fun.
Thats it?

Come on isaac your disapointing me.


Hell I even topped ya.
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Most recently did a perfect balance point wheelie down my road and turned into my driveway only to turn around and see a undercover blue impala sitting in my driveway with its lights on....Just happened to be the cheif of police for the city I live in. Some exact quotes from him:
"That was just plain stupid, you could have hurt or killed yourself"
"You need to do that kind of stuff on the track"
then he went back to his car, after informing me he was the cheif of police, and at this point I thought I was screwed... He then came back and said:
"your lucky I am the chief cause I really don't feel like writing tickets unless they are for really serious things"

"I just happened to forget my ticket book this morning anyway"

"very nice wheelie by the way, Just don't let me catch you doing that on the street again"
"My son has a k3 GSXR1000 and he scares the crap out of me with it but he loves it"

Then we chatted for a couple minutes and he left without even giving me a written warning.

God can i be stupid sometimes, lol I even looked around to see if there was any popo's around before I did it...
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Most recently did a perfect balance point wheelie down my road and turned into my driveway only to turn around and see a undercover blue impala sitting in my driveway with its lights on....Just happened to be the cheif of police for the city I live in. Some exact quotes from him:
"That was just plain stupid, you could have hurt or killed yourself"
"You need to do that kind of stuff on the track"
then he went back to his car, after informing me he was the cheif of police, and at this point I thought I was screwed... He then came back and said:
"your lucky I am the chief cause I really don't feel like writing tickets unless they are for really serious things"

"I just happened to forget my ticket book this morning anyway"

"very nice wheelie by the way, Just don't let me catch you doing that on the street again"
"My son has a k3 GSXR1000 and he scares the crap out of me with it but he loves it"

Then we chatted for a couple minutes and he left without even giving me a written warning.

God can i be stupid sometimes, lol I even looked around to see if there was any popo's around before I did it...
Should have beat him up and stole his car.
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