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Old 05-21-2007, 01:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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draggin knee, easier for tall or short guys?

draggin knee, easier for tall or short guys? i kinda confuse myself thinking about it because both sides make sense...


do u guys think its easier for a taller or shorter guy to drag a knee?


the arguement im seeing so far is, it should be easier because of the length of limbs but the other side is saying if your tall you have to carry more corner speed due to the mass... does mass have as much to do with hanging off as weight?

say for example a 6' guy and a 6'7" guy both the same weight carrying the same speed...
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it's easier for someone who does yoga.

I'd go with equal chances, proportions being the same.

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Taller guys have more leg to stick out, especially if they tilt themselve a bit in the saddle. I've seen really tall guys drag a knee without tilting the bike very much at all.

With proper technique it's all pretty much the same. If you're goal is to carry as much corner speed as you can, then you want to maximize the speed allowable by lowering the center of gravity of both the bike and the rider, all while remaining in control and without upsetting the steering or the suspension while entering or exiting the corner. Theoretically, the more you could lean off the faster you could go, but if you have to jerk on the bars to pull yourself back into the saddle or can't effectively steer the bike while in mid corner, then you've set yourself up for some issues if you have to deal with anything except a constant radius corner where you're the only rider on the track.
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im kinda short, only 5'7'' and can't really get a knee down to save my life. but im still leaning, can keep up with most, and use all my tires. i would say tall mofos have a better chance, but maybe that's just me.
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girls have the better build for dragging knees. not as many do it because they are naturally smarter than us guys, but the way their hips move gives them a more natural feel for being in the propper position. Once you're talking about guys, it's all about experience and guts. tall or small has nothing to do with it.
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Lets see.....I don't think height matters. Look at most of the AMA and GP riders...short, like horse jockeys.
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I dont get how this is any sort of discussion. A taller person with good form can get a knee out and down sooner and farther than a short person with good form. Am I really reading this as a serious question or is life a dream and I am the imagination of myself? Am I in the damn twilight zone? Someone pass the chronic. I'm apparently out of the loop.


The problem with form, along with many other things, is that when people think they are leaning off as far as possible they aren't even close. Get a cheek or even ass being completely off the seat isnt all that much. When you are literally standing to the side with your outside knee touching the middle of the tank, and your ass outside of orbit, while looking straight ahead at the bar end of your clip on, THEN you are leaning off.


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Lets see.....I don't think height matters. Look at most of the AMA and GP riders...short, like horse jockeys.

Using GP riders as a comparison is deceiving. The thing about that is that they are going so insanely fast that ANYONE could stick a leg out and touch-down. Its over kill in its own way.
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can one drag their knees with less lean on a pocket bike?
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Obviously, the taller the rider, the less lean angle required to touch down a knee, so in that sense it's "easier" for taller riders. I have no idea what the point of the question is, but anyway...
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can one drag their knees with less lean on a pocket bike?

shorter bike = easier drag = less lean angle

taller bike = more lean angle = harder to drag


If you cant drag your knee on a pocket bike, try going 10 miles an hour while turning.
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shorter bike = easier drag = less lean angle

taller bike = more lean angle = harder to drag


If you cant drag your knee on a pocket bike, try going 10 miles an hour while turning.
I think ped is trying to make an obvious mental picture point.
someone taller on that little of a bike is going to have all kinds of trouble keeping his knees OFF the ground. so in other words, a taller rider can and will touch his knees with less lean angle.

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I just use a belt sander on my knee pucks so it LOOKS like I drag my knees a lot!
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I think ped is trying to make an obvious mental picture point.
someone taller on that little of a bike is going to have all kinds of trouble keeping his knees OFF the ground. so in other words, a taller rider can and will touch his knees with less lean angle.
Despite all the shit ped says about his riding style I cant help but believe hes a noob in denial and wanted an answer.

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Despite all the shit ped says about his riding style I cant help but believe hes a noob in denial and wanted an answer.

IM CALLIN YOUZ OUT PED
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I've observed that it's usually easier for tall guys. I'm about 5'9 and I just feel like the really tall guys in front of me tend to drag knee without leaning the bike near as much. I suppose it's because their in seem is longer.

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