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Old 05-18-2007, 02:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I change my oil and filter every time too. Just common for me, I do all the work on my cages too and change oil and filter together. Just my way, do it your way.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I wouldn't see a reason to not change the filter evertime. It's personal preference definately...but at least every other time, unless it's in a break-in, then I'd suggest every time for the first couple times to avoid metal shavings getting in the motor.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I change my filter everytime I change my oil. I don't really have a reason why, I would just feel cheap if I didn't. I mean, it's only like $5 for a filter anyway.
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I change the filter each time I change the oil.
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New filter everytime.. Leaving the old filter with old oil feels half assed.. I want as much as possible of the old stuff OUT
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New filter everytime.. Leaving the old filter with old oil feels half assed.. I want as much as possible of the old stuff OUT
Exactly. And guess what else? If your current sportbike lasted 300,000 miles before needing a rebuild, who loses? Right, motorcycle factory!
If your current sportbike lasted 150,000 miles before needing a rebuild, who loses? Right, you lose. Motorcycle factory/dealer network wins!!
Only 100,000 miles? You lose. Motorcycle factory/dealer network wins even sooner!!

It's business to business people, making strategies and calculations to make more, and more money, sooner and faster, more often, etc., etc.

New models usually have more modern, sophisticated features every year, making bikes even a year or two old seem like old school, out-dated relics belonging in a museum! Well, not that bad, but you get the point?

Another factor for them to increase sales on the large scale, is to do any little thing, to NOT promote long engine life! We're talking not endorsing synthetic oil. How about long intervals between oil changes while NOT endorsing synthetic (there's always enough bone-heads left around to always do EXACTLY as the owners manual recommends, even if it's contrary to extending engine life.) All these sh!tty little recomendations add up to a shorter engine life, such as 100,000 vs. 300,000 miles. The companies that make the old school dinosaur oil also lose big time with smart educated customers as well, so they play the same game, on the same side as the big factories that make bikes, cars, whatever.

Only synthetic oil was slippery and tough enough for use on jet engines, military jet engines-which is why Amsoil was founded by a former military guy-pilot or mechanic-not sure which.

You are selling hundreds of thousands of cars, motorcycles, trucks, airplanes tanks, missles, bombs, bullets, fighter jets, whatever, okay? That's your business, right? When do you want old customers to come back and buy more stuff from you again?? As Soon As F Possible, right? How often do you want old customers to come back and buy from you? As Often As F Possible, right? There it is.

All possible strategies, calculations, campaigns, advertising, as many instances of not recommending or even mentioning
the best maintenance as possible, all add up to somebody else's paycheck being larger, and larger, and larger, and larger. Screw the customer, just get paid, bottom line. Answers the great oil debate, and a few other debates as well.
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