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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-29-2004, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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205 Tilley pleads guilty!!!

After all that, he plea bargains!!!

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Motorcyclist Clocked At 205 MPH Pleads Guilty

Dec 23, 2004 9:54 am US/Central
Wabasha, Minn. (AP) The Minnesota motorcyclist accused of buzzing down a rural highway at 205 mph must complete nearly an hour of community service for every mile-per-hour authorities say he was going.

Sam Tilley, 20, pleaded guilty Wednesday to speeding and driving without a motorcycle license. He was sentenced to a year of probation and 200 hours of community service. Wabasha County Attorney Jim Nordstrom said he dropped a misdemeanor charge of reckless driving.

Tilley, who previously pleaded not guilty to the charges, decided against going to trial on charges that carried maximum penalties of 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Without a trial, Tilley and the State Patrol won't be able to make their case about how fast Tilley was actually going. In September, a state trooper flying above U.S. 61 in southeastern Minnesota used a stopwatch and road markings to clock Tilley going 205 mph in a 65-mph zone.

But motorcycle enthusiasts -- and Tilley himself -- said they doubted his Honda RC51 could move that fast. Tilley had his bike tested by a mechanic, who said it wouldn't exceed 159 mph.

Tilley wasn't talking about the guilty plea Wednesday and has given few interviews since the incident. The State Patrol didn't comment either.

Legal observers said while Tilley avoided jail time and fines, the community service requirement is far more than the 15 to 30 hours that even a first-time DUI offender often gets.

"If this kid gets past his probation and community service, he could have a future in motorcycle racing," said Joseph Daly, professor of law at Hamline University and a former prosecutor. "He just needs to keep it on the racetrack."

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-29-2004, 11:07 AM
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Smart kid. He would of got much worse if he went to a federal curt. Comunity servic and probation. I got worse for going 50mph in a 25 zone.


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hmmm im not sure what id rather do, community service or pay a $400 fine like i did when i got a 92 in a 65

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He should have fought it.....altho probation and some community service isn't a bad deal.
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couldn't get defensive driving? what kind of lawyer did he have?!
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he got screwed. its a shame the kid didn't have the funds to properly fight his case.

the state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was in fact travelling at 205mph. if he had enough money he could have hired more expert witnesses and more evidence to prove that his vehicle could not have traveled at the speed that he was charged at. even if the jury felt he may have been speeding they still would not be able to find him guilty if the state couldn't prove he was travelling at the speed he was charged.

all this does is give law enforcement even more latitude in what they "clock" vehicles at ant requires them to have less proof to support their charges.

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That sucks. He could have got off that so easy. I don't see why they just didn't test the speed of the bike and show the courts that it was impossible. Or have a Honda expert write a letter saying that the bike wouldn't go that fast without extensive modifications well beyond what he had.
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I don't see why they just didn't test the speed of the bike and show the courts that it was impossible.
He did test it...


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Tilley had his bike tested by a mechanic, who said it wouldn't exceed 159 mph.

I personally think he should have fought it...He may not have won overall(he admitted himself he was going over 100 mph), but I think he should have put up a fight to set up a precedent...Sounds like he had a real shitty lawyer...

I know he's posted on the board before, maybe he'll do it again...

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Smart kid. He would of got much worse if he went to a federal curt. Comunity servic and probation. I got worse for going 50mph in a 25 zone

Just curious as to why he would have to go to federal court, since when has speeding become a federal offense?
Had he really wanted to fight his case, he would have won, but when do most kids make that much effort? When he turns 30 (if he ever makes it) he will say "damn I could have won that case".
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Wow thats better than what my uncle almost got testing my bike with out license doing 72 in a 40 hehe stupid motorcycle cop got em and let him off a 700 dollar fine
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well, 200hrs of community serv. is alot of time..........

i think he played it smart, they would changed the charge from speeding to wreckless.....then it goes to big peoples court........felony charges i think.

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He did test it...
Maybe I should read the whole story from now on.

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I believe this was a career move. Rather than adjudicate his obvious innocence, I'll bet he was enjoying his notoriety and wanted to be known as the "fastest man ever to get a ticket." He's been on the show circuit, I understand.
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If he wouldn't have admitted going 100mph he could've fought it. He was obviously guilty of driving without a license. The problem is there is no way his bike was going that fast and if it wasn't going 205 mph who says how fast it was really going. Woulnd't hold up too well in court.

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Should have fought it as it was baseless
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