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Old 10-19-2004, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know the suspension isnt stock, but how much is done to the motors? I was watching today on Speed. they said the honda 1000s make 200 hp. do all the bikes make that much ?
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my 600 gets low 100s in hp

i think the new R1 gets 180 stock

the 100rr(honda) does not get 200 stock---so the engine definitely had something done to it.

there is a video out there of a 500 hp busa
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my 600 gets low 100s in hp

i think the new R1 gets 180 stock

the 100rr(honda) does not get 200 stock---so the engine definitely had something done to it.

there is a video out there of a 500 hp busa

i think he was talking about just superbikes, not motorcycles period. ~200+ hp would be my guess for competition superbikes. i read the article in (insert cycle mag here) about the buildup of that yellow 1000rr, and they got it up to 200 na horsepower. it had a name but i forgot it.
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i read the article in (insert cycle mag here) about the buildup of that yellow 1000rr, and they got it up to 200 na horsepower. it had a name but i forgot it.
Ten Kateis the team. A dutch duo doing pretty well against the factories efforts. Vermuellin is riding. He's like 20 or 22 years old and trying to beat the Ducs. But yeah, 200hp is roughly the Superbike's hp. Some more, some less.
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The top Moto GP bikes are well over the 200 mark. Try 220+
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Your 600 puts down 100+ bhp; however, a new R1 does not make 180bph. The purported manufacturer’s claim is 172 and 8 more with ram air. These figures are taken from the engine. Moreover, manufacturer’s alleged horsepower is often viewed through rose-tinted lenses. In actuality, the horsepower is much lower. An 04 R1 puts out just a smidge over 150 bhp (152-154? I have it somewhere in an old Superbike).

Some of the better GP bikes make 220+

I guess it’s reasonable to assume AMA bikes make slightly less.
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I guess it’s reasonable to assume AMA bikes make slightly less.
I think during Daytona the commentators were saying they make 180-195 hp depending on the bike. Strangely though, I believe AMA was faster recently when they were both at the same track on the same weekend. I think it was attributed to the tires being better for the AMA guys.
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Guy I do trackdays w/ has lots of money. He managed to get a deal on an engine built for competition in AMA 954s. Put it in his 954. Dyno'd the beast, puts down 190+ rear wheel HP in full tune, saw the dyno sheet. Last trackday we were dicing around a little, coming off the last turn on the straight thing would just rocket away from me. Caught back up in the turns though, don't have to worry about the back end wanting to become the front.
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Guy I do trackdays w/ has lots of money. He managed to get a deal on an engine built for competition in AMA 954s. Put it in his 954. Dyno'd the beast, puts down 190+ rear wheel HP in full tune, saw the dyno sheet. Last trackday we were dicing around a little, coming off the last turn on the straight thing would just rocket away from me. Caught back up in the turns though, don't have to worry about the back end wanting to become the front.
190+ NA ponies is insane on a street bike. Especially w/ no boost to wait on. Any idea how that would compare (not numbers wise) to the new litre bikes? Is it as twitchy as a tweakin' crackhead or does he have his suspension sorted pretty well?
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reading about that ten kate bike, they said it wasnt as wild as you think. sure it would wheelie through the first three gears, but i dont think its "as twitchy as a tweakin crackhead"
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Guy I do trackdays w/ has lots of money. He managed to get a deal on an engine built for competition in AMA 954s. Put it in his 954. Dyno'd the beast, puts down 190+ rear wheel HP in full tune, saw the dyno sheet. Last trackday we were dicing around a little, coming off the last turn on the straight thing would just rocket away from me. Caught back up in the turns though, don't have to worry about the back end wanting to become the front.

a buddy of mine did that with an r1 and a motor from graves.

its putting down just a bit shy of 200 at the wheel.

that thing is a blast to ride, but the front end doesn't stay down one bit.
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I know the suspension isnt stock, but how much is done to the motors? I was watching today on Speed. they said the honda 1000s make 200 hp. do all the bikes make that much ?
Rear wheel HP between 185 - 195. With rear wheel MPH around the Daytona banking upwards to 210 MPH.

One of my bros (former AMA PRO License holder) built his '04 G1K with trick race parts. His G1K puts 185 HP to the ground. Puts it out on the track when he is in town.
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but i dont think its "as twitchy as a tweakin crackhead"
LOL. I was talking about pillaka's buddy's 954 w/ the swap. That's big ponies for stock suspension to handle.
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Mladin said his Superbike has about 185 whp. The CBR of Duhamel and Zemke has a bit more according to him. He says they're at 200. I read an advertisement for the sale of Hagas WSB Duc 998. It said 189whp. This is rediculous.
This is a LOT of power. Too much for a streetbike.Especially when they're so light.
GP bikes made 215 or so when they were 5002 strokes on leaded fuel, Unleaded made them a bit tamer, 200ish. The current GP HP stars are the Duc and the Honda at around 240(set-up depends on track) and Yamaha and Kawasaki(this year) are right behind them.
The old Kawi was 'underpowered' at 220ish!!
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Ohhh, the old RC45 in it's last year made 190 as well. It was a 750!
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