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Old 10-22-2008, 02:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Agree w/ chiller; I got 4k out of the stock 020 rear and maybe double that on the front on my '06.

I have 021 front and rear now. Really like them! Right at 3k miles right now. Very even wear not a hint of flat spotting yet. Not quite as grippy as the Dunlops I had on in between the stockers and this set but a very smooth ride. Really soak up the bumps well. Parabellum I think you'd like them just fine. Highly reccomended.
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think a big part of it has to do with:

1) Tire pressure.

2) How much 2-up riding you do.

3) Access to twisty roads.

4) Road materials - I know that some road materials used in the south (where there are no hard freezes expected) are MUCH harder on tires than the road materials commonly used up north where the roads have to survive a hard freeze.

That said...I think I will get 8K out of my BT020 rear before its done.
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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10,600 miles on the stock BT020's on my '06 FZ6.

Minimal wear on the front but the rear is very much squared off (nearly all miles are commuting on straight roads). It is very noticable (rear wiggle) whenever I hit a seam on the road or any other road irregularity.

The rear should probably be replaced but as I'm not down to the wear indicators yet I'll likely wait till I've put on another couple of thousand miles.

I'll probably put on the BT021's.

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10,600 miles on the stock BT020's on my '06 FZ6.

Minimal wear on the front but the rear is very much squared off (nearly all miles are commuting on straight roads). It is very noticable (rear wiggle) whenever I hit a seam on the road or any other road irregularity.

The rear should probably be replaced but as I'm not down to the wear indicators yet I'll likely wait till I've put on another couple of thousand miles.

I'll probably put on the BT021's.

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How in god's name did you get 10,600 miles out of the 020s and still not be at the wear indicator?????

I do NO two up riding and I am AT the wear indicators at 7500 miles.

That is amazing.
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I'm at 8600 miles on my BT020 tires. I don't particularly care for them; but I don't hate them either. I'm below the wear indicators on front and rear; both tires wore down at about the same rate. They're cupped and squared off... normal. Time to replace.

I'm pretty fastidious when it comes to checking/maintaining my tire pressure; and most of my miles are highway commutes. I get out and carve the canyons when I can--usually an afterwork romp or a weekend day here and there.

I generally ride moderately, but I'm not without my spirited moments--it IS a sportbike! 1-up; light cargo, if any. I weigh less than 150 lbs...

I'm replacing the BT020s with Michelin Pilot Road 2CT. For how I ride my bike, hopefully these will be awesome tires! Dual-compound tire; soft enough on the sides for carving, but hard enough in the center to not wear excessively on my highway commutes.
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I think a big part of it has to do with:

1) Tire pressure.

2) How much 2-up riding you do.

3) Access to twisty roads.

4) Road materials - I know that some road materials used in the south (where there are no hard freezes expected) are MUCH harder on tires than the road materials commonly used up north where the roads have to survive a hard freeze.

That said...I think I will get 8K out of my BT020 rear before its done.
that logic doesn't really hold true

1. i keep an eye on the pressure
2. 2up i do about 20% of the time, but seeing ashow she weighs about the same as a sack of potato's (light) it doesn't do anything
3. we do enough twisties i can get over edge to edge
4. i live in t he north where its smoother/ harder roads that are less sticky ... i find south roads are really gummy ...
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I swapped mine out at 9,500. The rear was done, the front had another thousand maybe left in it. Almost all that riding was done in boston or on new england road trips, fwiw. I switched to Metzler Z6's. Things I noticed:

- They're louder. I heard a good bit more road noise from them, right off the bat, and I'm no longer sure if they still do it, because I've probably gotten used to it by now.
- They felt ... stiffer. Same air pressure, mind you. I felt like the little bumps and cracks suddenly were being telegraphed to the handlebars in a much more direct way. This and the noise lead me to believe the sidewalls are stiffer, but I'm not sure.
- The edge grip doesn't seem as good. I say this because when I get over into the last 1/3rd of edge grip, the rear of the bike now walks off-line more than it did. Even 6,000 miles later, it's still a tiny bit unnerving. It's a small thing, but I still notice it. The rear of the bike doesn't perfectly follow the tragectory of the curve like it did, sliding instead a few centimeters off-center at the midpoint of the turn. I feel like it used to not do that, unless I MADE it do that by getting ham-fisted on slick surfaces with cold tires and inducing wheel spin.


They're holding up well, and I really have no serious complaints, but I think I'll try something different next time. 6k on them I think, maybe 6.5, and they still look very good, without a noticeable flatspot.
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that logic doesn't really hold true

1. i keep an eye on the pressure
2. 2up i do about 20% of the time, but seeing ashow she weighs about the same as a sack of potato's (light) it doesn't do anything
3. we do enough twisties i can get over edge to edge
4. i live in t he north where its smoother/ harder roads that are less sticky ... i find south roads are really gummy ...
Well, lets be clear....those things I listed ARE factors in tire wear, but you are saying that they do not apply to you....which is perfectly fine.

I wonder why the discrepancy though?

Can you think of any other factors?
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