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FZ6If you’re looking for one bike to perform a multitude of missions, look no further.
Take it from Cycle World* Magazine - “For a more advanced rider looking for a bike to do it all, there is no other choice.”
As far as I know, the edge compound is the same as in BT002, which is a good track tire.
Hell yes, the BT002 sticks like freaking velcro...if the edge compound is really the same as the 002, the 016 will probably be the PERFECT tire for me.
Since I live in a land of dead straight roads....I always wear out the middle of my tire way before the sides (even though I literally have 1/8" of chicken strip at any time).
Well they are at my house but just haven't got to installing them with me spending entire day at this conference ...
you will have to let me know how ya like them... im going Sat. to pick mine up from the store...
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gotta 7 way party bong at the sheriff's dept.
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When I treat the street as a racetrack I just pretend the cops are cornerworkers giving me the meatball.
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ok, here is what you do you ready for this ok lets get down to business you gotta get a bunch of stuff for this you go to the grocery store get a jar of pickles some mayonnaise cheeze wizz crackers some milk and a thing of ketchup you bring all of that to your friends girlfriends house then u bend her over and fuck her in the ass as hard and fast as you can.
Still in love with these tires. I've got a tad over 3,000 on them now. These just may go over 6k for me. And they stick like glue.
While mileage is a very subjective thing, for comparison, my mileage on other tires were:
Stock D252's: 4800
BT-014's: 2600
Corsa III's: 6000
So, these are looking quite well for me, especially considering the level of performance.
On my FZ I have the BT021 now with 7000 miles on them and they are no where near worn out. I expect they will go at least 10000 miles - maybe more. I do alot of commuting and the center compound has held up great.
According to one of the review articles on the other post, the center compound on the BT 016 is the same as the center compound of the BT021 while the edge compound is that of the BT 002 (not sure about the third compound between edge and center). Based on this they should provide excellent mileage while having fantastic grip in the corners. I am definitely going to go for these when the Dunlop Qualifiers wear out on the CBR. With all of the commuting I do, the Qualifiers are definitely going to wear flat in the middle before long. As much as I like the 021's, I will probably switch to 016's on the FZ when the time comes as well.
That is fine with me, the BT016 is not an appropriate track day tire anyway.
The most "streetable" tire that I would ever run on the track is the Dunlop Qualifier.
LOL, i just got done running the dual compound sport touring tire by dunlop - Roadsmarts on the track, it held up great, even in the snow, i even dragged knee on my 1st track day, and as for thinking the suspension is holding you back, its not the bike, its just you. As for tires on the track, relax - its NOT necessary to get track dedicated tires, just concentrate on everything other then your tires and you will have a good time. My buddy bought a new EX500 and took it to the track with less then 800 total riding miles under his belt. Have you seen the tires on those bikes? dinosaur lego blocks man - its not the tires- and its not the bike - right now its you. Have you seen some of the tires the 250's rock, have you ever ridden with a experienced 250 rider? - theyll leave litre bikes in the dust in sections of twisties, 21st century tires are awesome, btw i squeezed 7800 outta my 020 and i never had 1 single complaint, until i tired pilot powers did i realize how much they sucked COMPARED to the aftermarket powers
LOL, i just got done running the dual compound sport touring tire by dunlop - Roadsmarts on the track, it held up great, even in the snow, i even dragged knee on my 1st track day, and as for thinking the suspension is holding you back, its not the bike, its just you. As for tires on the track, relax - its NOT necessary to get track dedicated tires, just concentrate on everything other then your tires and you will have a good time. My buddy bought a new EX500 and took it to the track with less then 800 total riding miles under his belt. Have you seen the tires on those bikes? dinosaur lego blocks man - its not the tires- and its not the bike - right now its you. Have you seen some of the tires the 250's rock, have you ever ridden with a experienced 250 rider? - theyll leave litre bikes in the dust in sections of twisties, 21st century tires are awesome, btw i squeezed 7800 outta my 020 and i never had 1 single complaint, until i tired pilot powers did i realize how much they sucked COMPARED to the aftermarket powers
Your opinion is noted, but it does not change my view at all. And yes, I have been dusted by kids on 125s and 250s....both bikes were running not dot race tires (but it was skill that caused them to pass me, not the tires).
In my opinion, you will get the most out of a track experience when you run tires that were made to be ridden that aggressively.
trust me, save your $$$ on "track tires" and just get whatever you would get for the street and run them, dont worry about the tires, if you talk 2 any motorcycle instructor or any knowledgeable motorcycles parts guy - they will tell you whatever tires you have right now will do just fine on the track. (21st century tires are FAR SUPERIOR then tires made even 5-10 years ago) No matter how fast you think you are on the street the track is totally different, 1/2 of my 1st track day i was just getting accustomed to what the track offered, different lines, early late apexes, smooth parts/lines on the track. There is no way your gonna go on a track and rail it like a MotoGP rider. At first you will probably be in tow behind a instructor who teaches you a "race line" its completely wacko and makes no sense when your trailing the instructor going 50-70ish, the race line they show you really only works if your hauling it... and slowly afterward you have picked up your pace later in the day do you start realizing "wow this line actually works far better to get me setup for the next corner"
i didnt tell you but my buddy with the ex500 was dusting me left and right and he had dinosaur lego tread pattern blocks for tires ... again its not the tires. its you, just take the complete thought of "track tires is a necessity" out of your mind, its not required, if it was, your bike wouldnt pass tech inspection.
trust me, save your $$$ on "track tires" and just get whatever you would get for the street and run them, dont worry about the tires, if you talk 2 any motorcycle instructor or any knowledgeable motorcycles parts guy - they will tell you whatever tires you have right now will do just fine on the track. (21st century tires are FAR SUPERIOR then tires made even 5-10 years ago) No matter how fast you think you are on the street the track is totally different, 1/2 of my 1st track day i was just getting accustomed to what the track offered, different lines, early late apexes, smooth parts/lines on the track. There is no way your gonna go on a track and rail it like a MotoGP rider. At first you will probably be in tow behind a instructor who teaches you a "race line" its completely wacko and makes no sense when your trailing the instructor going 50-70ish, the race line they show you really only works if your hauling it... and slowly afterward you have picked up your pace later in the day do you start realizing "wow this line actually works far better to get me setup for the next corner"
i didnt tell you but my buddy with the ex500 was dusting me left and right and he had dinosaur lego tread pattern blocks for tires ... again its not the tires. its you, just take the complete thought of "track tires is a necessity" out of your mind, its not required, if it was, your bike wouldnt pass tech inspection.
Why are you talking to me like I haven't been on a track before? I also find it amusing that you presume to know what a generic "instructor" will do when there are hundreds of race schools across the world and they all operate differently. My last instruction was from a ranked AMA racer and he did not show me anything called a "race line" (but I know exactly what you are talking about).
We have a difference of opinion, and yours has been noted.
trust me, save your $$$ on "track tires" and just get whatever you would get for the street and run them, dont worry about the tires, if you talk 2 any motorcycle instructor or any knowledgeable motorcycles parts guy - they will tell you whatever tires you have right now will do just fine on the track. (21st century tires are FAR SUPERIOR then tires made even 5-10 years ago) No matter how fast you think you are on the street the track is totally different, 1/2 of my 1st track day i was just getting accustomed to what the track offered, different lines, early late apexes, smooth parts/lines on the track. There is no way your gonna go on a track and rail it like a MotoGP rider. At first you will probably be in tow behind a instructor who teaches you a "race line" its completely wacko and makes no sense when your trailing the instructor going 50-70ish, the race line they show you really only works if your hauling it... and slowly afterward you have picked up your pace later in the day do you start realizing "wow this line actually works far better to get me setup for the next corner"
i didnt tell you but my buddy with the ex500 was dusting me left and right and he had dinosaur lego tread pattern blocks for tires ... again its not the tires. its you, just take the complete thought of "track tires is a necessity" out of your mind, its not required, if it was, your bike wouldnt pass tech inspection.
I gotta agree, while the tires are important to a point, it is what you can do with the available traction that determines how quick the bike will go around a corner.
I did a track day yesterday with the Cycle Gear Diablo $179.95 specials and had no problems at all. Even down at peg grinding angles they worked great, held the back end during roll-ons and braked very consistantly.
When I started roading 25 years ago my first instructor told me to buy good sport-touring tires for rider schools because they slide evenly, and they allow you to play with the edge of traction easier than a DOT race tire or a slick. Once you can do that a race tire or a slick will allow you to really rail on the track.
Back then the hot tire was the Hi-Sport, the Diablos I ran yesterday were much, much better, heck even my stock 020's were a very nice tire and better than my Hi-Sports.
Regardless, 99.9% of it is rider. Yesterday a 14 year old kid on an older NSR125 was putting to expert riders on 1098s, and CBR1000s. It's the rider, not the equipment.
... again its not the tires. its you, just take the complete thought of "track tires is a necessity" out of your mind, its not required, if it was, your bike wouldnt pass tech inspection.
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