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Old 07-28-2008, 01:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I highly recommend these: 90° Machined aluminum valve stems-Japanese Wheels, 90° Valve Stems, 119701 - Bike Effects .com

I have run these on my last 2 bikes with only good things to say and warm fuzzies. Last bike, 29,xxx miles, current bike, 12,000 so far. The lifespan , I guess, would be indefinite. The air valve inside the stem may one day need replacement, but not the stem itself.
These really make checking the pressure a heck-of-a-lot easier.
Good find...that would be much easier...I fight with checking and adding air to the front tire every time because the rotors are in the way!

edit: Just ordered my tire balancer, harbor freight tire mounter and motorcycle attachment. This is my last $240 left from my economy stimulus check! At least I'm sure it's a good investment that will save me money over the years! Heck, I can even change friend's/coworkers moto tires for the price of a case of beer, cash or for the women only...umm... nevermind.

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Well I guess I'm going to have to add to this thread. I bought the HF tire changer and motorcycle adapter earlier this year based on this thread. Very good investment! It is mounted in the concrete floor over at my buddy Bruce's welding shop. He is talking about moving in the future but by then I hope to have it at my place. Last weekend was the first itme either of us used it.

The ease with which it breaks the bead is worth the $ alone. I swear I think the front wheel was done in five minutes. Rear took a little longer. It was pretty easy to get the old Dunlop off but getting the new Bridgestone 021 on was tough. First side went on pretty easy but the second side was TOUGH! One stiff sidewall. Oh, on the rear wheel keep the sprocket side up, otherwise the wheel don't fit in the blocks right.

All in all I'm very pleased with the performance of the piece of equipment. I do agree w/ one of the above posts though: My next addition will be the Mojo lever. The bar supplied with the tire changer scratches the hell out of the wheel. I had some teflon tape that I tried coating the ends with but I didn't last very long.

Went back in the afternoon and put new tires on my riding mower with it. Worked most excellently.

As far as valve stems, in 24 years of riding never changed a valve stem on a bike. Some I had for ten years and never did.

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Oh, on the rear wheel keep the sprocket side up, otherwise the wheel don't fit in the blocks right.



As far as valve stems, in 24 years of riding never changed a valve stem on a bike. Some I had for ten years and never did.
When you are recommending to keep the sprocket side up? During installation of the new tire?

Good to know valve stems can last. I know they always change them when changing passenger vehicle tires but then again some of those go 70,000 miles between changes.
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Here's another great link to change your own.

I used that method for about 20 tires before I bought our nomar tire changer.
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And we love those valve stems also... I won't own a bike without them now.

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The sprocket pulls right off it you'd like to take it off.
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The sprocket pulls right off it you'd like to take it off.
May just do that just in case. I don't want to accidentally bend sprocket or a brake rotor.
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I just recently purchased the HF tire changer also. Didn't like the look of their mount/demount bar so I ordered one from No-mar. I get to test it out pretty soon because the back tire is just about toasted and new tires are on the way.
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Interesting about the 90 degree valve stems. When I did a lot of track days, the racers used to say never to use the 90 degree stems as the weight of them would cause a failure with extended high speeds. Maybe these aluminum ones are better? I would love to have an accessible valve stem, but $30 each? Ouch!

As I posted earlier, I have the HF changer and definitely recommend that you get a mojolever too replace the HF one. (Well, I still use the HF lever to operate the bead breaker, but that's it.)

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I just used my equipment a couple of weeks ago and here is some more feedback.

- Mount the HF changer to the floor. Don't try to "ghetto it" like me, where you bolt it to long pieces of metal and then have to stand on the thing to keep it from rotating and or tipping. It would be so much easier to change tires if I just put some concrete anchors into the garage floor, but I'm stubbornly waiting until I get a detached garage.

- Be sure that you push most of the tire down to the center of the rim when trying to de-mount the tire. This is more important on the rear, which is a bigger, stronger tire. I sort of bent the bolt on my mojolever while trying to get the bead flipped. I contacted Mitch (the guy that makes the mojolever) and he's sending me a new bolt. Apparently, he redesigned the end to use a larger diameter, stronger (non-stainless) bolt after I bought mine. I can't use the larger bolt, but he is giving me a strong bolt of the same size of mine. Anyways, pushing the bulk of the tire to the center of the rim gives you more working area of the tire.

- You can balance the FZ6 wheels with the stock axles, using a big pair of jackstands. Put the axle through the wheel, and place the axle ends up on jackstands up high enough for the tires to clear the floor. Make sure that the stands are level to each other, the spin the tires and make sure that they don't stop at the same spot. My Conti Road-Attacks had colored dots on them, which I aligned with the valve stem location, and my wheels needed no weights added to them, beyond what they came with from the factory. Apparently Yamaha did a good job neutral balancing the rims and the Contis are a well balanced tire.

- Use blocks of wood or something similar under the sides of the rim when breaking the bead. This is to keep the brake rotors off of the ground to avoid bending them.

- I don't use the upper arm part of the motorcycle attachment, just the rim clamp part. I then put in a metal rod, and use that to work the lever around the tire. The upper arm part just seemed to get in the way.

- Be sure the double check the rotation direction of the tire and the rim before installing them. I had a close call on my rear tire, where I had the first bead over the rim already when I checked again and realized that it was on backwards.... It was easy enough to get off, but I sure am glad that I caught it before getting both beads on.

- When adjusting your rear wheel alignment after putting you rear wheel back on, remember if you happen to have a yamaha tail rack installed. If you forget, you can bang you forehead on it and cut your head open...

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Also.... (Since I couldn't fit six pictures on one SB.net post....)

- I have a new "magic" wrench for the rear axle on our bike. I always had trouble keeping a wrench or socket on the right side of the rear axle (looking from the rear) when installing or removing the bolt. AutoZone has a rental tool (OEM #27018) labeled as "Fan clutch wrench Ford 4.9L" which works perfectly. One of the wrenches in that kit is a nice flat 36mm wrench which works wonderfully on our bikes. I rented the tool earlier in the year to do tie-rods on my 2000 Silverado, and ended up just buying it once I found out it fit the FZ6 rear axle too. (No, I do not own a 4.9L Ford....)

- Check out how worn my Road Attacks were. I didn't realize they were that bad until I put them next to the new tires. I had over 6000 miles on the tires, so I can't complain.
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Interesting about the 90 degree valve stems. When I did a lot of track days, the racers used to say never to use the 90 degree stems as the weight of them would cause a failure with extended high speeds. Maybe these aluminum ones are better? I would love to have an accessible valve stem, but $30 each? Ouch!
They are $30 a set, and you'll find them on the AMA bikes - we supply them for the Graves bikes.
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Can't wait to get my HF stuff in so I can get rid of these BT20's! They have 6,000 miles on them and are completely shot...the center of the rears are worn past the wear indicators!
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+1 to solidly mounting n the concrete floor. Makes it so easy to use. Mojolever will be my next purchase.

The BT 20 I took off the rear had around 5k on it; I knew it was worn but the steel was showing in the center and I could nearly poke my finger through the thin spot.
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The tabs that contact your rim on the HF changer are a bit crude. I coated mine with the stuff they sell at the hardware store to coat your tool handles. It puts a rubber coating on there. Supposed to be used to dip your plier handles in. It helps.
(Looks like that may have been done in the pics above.)
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