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I inquired with Sharkbait66 about picking up a spacer kit and he told me has only two left! He also has no plans to continue making this kit as he no longer has the access he once did to the tools to make the kit. So I might be second to last to attempt this mod for a while.
What I'm doing here is calling out and appealing to those vendors, machinists and/or shops who might be able take over providing this kit. When FAZR6 gave up the FE kit, there was someone who stepped up (woohoo SBN) and continued to make it the successful mod that it is today.
I hope we can do the same here. I think as more people start tracking the FZ6, or start riding race cups like the FZ6 Cup in Australia, the R6 Fork Mod will be an important mod. I think there is no doubt that the FZ6 is growing in popularity as I see one almost once a week now (if not twice or more in the same day) which is way up from when I started riding it (maybe once every couple months). I work with about 4 FZ6 riders in a company of 5,500 and and about 100 riders.
Anyways, if you don't have access to the tools or the time to do the work, try to find someone who does.
Hmm, this sounds like a job for me... now if someone could answer the question I posed in my thread...
If you're talking about the question of whether the fender for an R6 will fit the fz6 with the R6 forks installed then the answer is that it depends.....
It depends on whether the 2006 R6S has the 70 series tire on it or not and I don't know. The 03 and 04 R6 used a 60 series tire and the fender was too close to the tire when using a 70 series tire like the FZ6 has. Soooooo....the fender for the 03 & 04 definately wont work with the fork mod because I've tried it....thus the need for the fender mounting adapters to fit the FZ6 fender.
But....if the 2006 & 2007 R6S, which uses the same forks from the 03 & 04 model is equipted with a 70 series tire, then they would have to have redesigned the fender to fit properly and thus, would definately work with the fork mod and eliminate the need for the fender adapters.
Also, I should add that if the fender mounting adapters can be eliminated by using an 06 or 07 R6S fender, then making the axle shims and caliper shims is a piece of cake and something that someone (possibly someone I know who took over for me with the FE Kit) could provide. The shims that I made back in the early days of this mod were .090 thick aluminum and worked fine. I still have the CAD files that I used to cut them out. Pictures of them can be seen on the fork mod thread.
EDIT: Nevermind about the fender question...the 06 & 07 R6S still uses a 60 series tire.
I'm about to buy a set of used axle spacers to give to my brother after measuring them so I can start making them. I'm also probably going to make some more clutch slave levers, this time outsourcing them to someone with a water jet machine (probably emachineshop)
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Also, I should add that if the fender mounting adapters can be eliminated by using an 06 or 07 R6S fender, then making the axle shims and caliper shims is a piece of cake and something that someone (possibly someone I know who took over for me with the FE Kit) could provide. The shims that I made back in the early days of this mod were .090 thick aluminum and worked fine. I still have the CAD files that I used to cut them out. Pictures of them can be seen on the fork mod thread.
EDIT: Nevermind about the fender question...the 06 & 07 R6S still uses a 60 series tire.
Would using the 03-04 R6/06-07 R6S triple tree allow someone to use the clip-ons and fender and eliminate the need of the spacer kit?
I'm about to buy a set of used axle spacers to give to my brother after measuring them so I can start making them. I'm also probably going to make some more clutch slave levers, this time outsourcing them to someone with a water jet machine (probably emachineshop)
Clip-ons wont work with the current front fairings will they? Except for the CBR Blackbird ones, but they mout ontop of the tripple, RS6 clipons mount under the tripple?
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Also, I should add that if the fender mounting adapters can be eliminated by using an 06 or 07 R6S fender, then making the axle shims and caliper shims is a piece of cake and something that someone (possibly someone I know who took over for me with the FE Kit) could provide. The shims that I made back in the early days of this mod were .090 thick aluminum and worked fine. I still have the CAD files that I used to cut them out. Pictures of them can be seen on the fork mod thread.
Way back in the day, FAZR6 sent me a set of his original aluminum spacers to do the R6 fork/brake swap. Before doing the actual swap, I ended up buying a set from sharkbait, as I seem to recall that they were made of steel and would be more durable.
I still have the original aluminum spacers from FAZR6 and would be willing to give them away, especially if it was for a good cause.
Clip-ons wont work with the current front fairings will they? Except for the CBR Blackbird ones, but they mout ontop of the tripple, RS6 clipons mount under the tripple?
Will they work w/the fairings? That's something someone needs to try out. There are Universal clip-ons that have a rise (ValterMoto in the Mod section/thread makes some) that might avoid the fairing. I think the reasons why the 1100xx clip-ons have been popular is because they're a pretty universal clip-on that happens to work w/our fairing.
The R6S clips also mount on top of the top triple but the triple is fabbed as such that it mates then bolts through. Imagine a bolt and nut through the parallel parts of this -> L7 and you essentially have the right clip-on mount. This image from RonAyers.com might show what I mean a little better. Notice the bevels in the end of the top triple.
Way back in the day, FAZR6 sent me a set of his original aluminum spacers to do the R6 fork/brake swap. Before doing the actual swap, I ended up buying a set from sharkbait, as I seem to recall that they were made of steel and would be more durable.
I still have the original aluminum spacers from FAZR6 and would be willing to give them away, especially if it was for a good cause.
Seriously? I was just about to buy a used set from a forum member to measure and begin reproducing them, but I guess if you want to give them away I'll gladly take them!
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The question is, are the forks the same distance apart on the FZ and R6S to make the upper triple work? Where can you get this info? If so, I have the Blackbird clipons on mine and would love to throw a good looking upper triple on it.
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Will they work w/the fairings? That's something someone needs to try out. There are Universal clip-ons that have a rise (ValterMoto in the Mod section/thread makes some) that might avoid the fairing. I think the reasons why the 1100xx clip-ons have been popular is because they're a pretty universal clip-on that happens to work w/our fairing.
The R6S clips also mount on top of the top triple but the triple is fabbed as such that it mates then bolts through. Imagine a bolt and nut through the parallel parts of this -> L7 and you essentially have the right clip-on mount. This image from RonAyers.com might show what I mean a little better. Notice the bevels in the end of the top triple.
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The question is, are the forks the same distance apart on the FZ and R6S to make the upper triple work? Where can you get this info? If so, I have the Blackbird clipons on mine and would love to throw a good looking upper triple on it.
Forks are not the same distance apart which is why we need the space kit. From the Fork Mod Thread....
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I elected to go with the newer '03-'04 forks because I know that those years R6's use the same wheels and rotors as mine and felt that my wheels and rotors stood a much better chance of working hand in hand with the forks that are already matched with them on another bike. The unknown variable was the axle which IS difference from mine. I really only expected the difference to be related to the differences in the axle mounting holes in the forks and to not really matter in any other way and that turned out to be an accurate assumption.
The only real surprise that I faced was that the FZ6 forks are spaced 5 mm further apart and didn't find that out until I was able to physically measure the triple clamp on the forks that I ordered and compare that to the measurements taken from my triple clamp. My initial response was that of doom and gloom because I knew that meant that the calipers were also going to be out of sync with the rotors and shimming, though possible, would be a difficult task and require custom fabricated shims. At that point, I almost gave up on this project as many of you will remember from my work-in-progress posts. Had it not been for the encouragement of other members and re-affirment from others that shimming should be a viable option, I probably would have quit.
Based on FAZR6's analysis, it would sound like it's our 120/70 front that keeps from replacing the entire fork assembly with an R6 Fork Assembly and 120/60 tire and R6 fender. I don't know however if the steering stem (term?) between the upper and lower triples is the same. That is another unknown variable.
You mention a good point about the tire size. Our 70 series tire is what makes the r6 fender a problem. You could in fact go with a 60 series tire spec like the R6 and then you could use the R6 fender and not need the fender adapters.
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Forks are not the same distance apart which is why we need the space kit. From the Fork Mod Thread....
Based on FAZR6's analysis, it would sound like it's our 120/70 front that keeps from replacing the entire fork assembly with an R6 Fork Assembly and 120/60 tire and R6 fender. I don't know however if the steering stem (term?) between the upper and lower triples is the same. That is another unknown variable.
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