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Well, my FZ6 is nicely lowered, thanks to a works performance shock. Now, I need a shorter kickstand. The only aftermarket stands I've found cost an arm and a leg. Does anyone know of a reasonable priced, shorter kickstand, or should I just cut and reweld the stock kickstand? Thanks!
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yeah dude, i'd cut it and reweld it, even if you have someone else do it it's not much work.
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I've always heard once you cut & reweld the sidestand it's never as strong as it was before.
If you must have it done I would say have a pro do it & look into ways of re-enforcing it so you don't end up with probs later on.
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I've always heard once you cut & reweld the sidestand it's never as strong as it was before.
If you must have it done I would say have a pro do it & look into ways of re-enforcing it so you don't end up with probs later on.

Yeah, I second that! I would have them weld a piece of rebar on the back of the stand for reinforcement. Even if it's only 4 or 5 inches long it will have 3 reinforced spots after the cut. The rebar will act as a brace should the kickstand weld break. Although, it shouldn't with the 3 welds distributing the weight.
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i cut a small wedge shape out of the kickstand(as high as i could) and bent it out a little and welded it,smoothed it. it has been like that for a year w/no problems!
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Well, my FZ6 is nicely lowered, thanks to a works performance shock. Now, I need a shorter kickstand. The only aftermarket stands I've found cost an arm and a leg. Does anyone know of a reasonable priced, shorter kickstand, or should I just cut and reweld the stock kickstand? Thanks!
I just shortened the kickstand on my wife's GS500F last week. I cut out the portion I figured I'd need to (first went an inch and then tried it out) which ended up being ~ 1.2", then I found some threaded stock that fit inside and cut it to length so that it fit the entire length inside the stand.

I then took it to a local weld shop and for $25 they hooked me up. See pics, if you didn't know it you couldn't tell and as far as strength, with that steel rod in there. I don't think there will ever be an issue.

Whether or not this method will work with the FZ6 stand... don't know but I would imagine it will. I did look at our stand and I see that it does taper down a bit below the spring, maybe just go with a smaller diameter rod on the inside, the welder should still be able to form a bond with the two pieces.
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They sell length adjustable sidestands, you know.
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i just lowered my 2001 ZX9R 2.5" and with the kickstand it stands straight up, HELL NO im not doin at, just left it on the rear stand.

yes they do sell adjustable kickstands, but if you have a stand kill switch they wont work. and the cheapest one i found was $140+shipping.
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Why not just cut it off at the flat pad that rests against the pavement and reweld the pad on? That way the weight of the bike resting on it will simply push down against the pad and not put any side load on your welds?
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my buddy just went through this with his gsxr... we just leaned it up against the fork lift at our shop, took the kickstand off, cut it in half then held the bike where we thought it had the same lean as stock... then cut that much off the stand (1.5" drop ended up being 2" off kickstand) then welded it back together..

we kinda have a little advantage having a shop, welding machine, saw, sanders, forklift, and assorted power tools at our disposal though

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Why not just cut it off at the flat pad that rests against the pavement and reweld the pad on? That way the weight of the bike resting on it will simply push down against the pad and not put any side load on your welds?
This is the best solution yet for the absolute strongest stand when it is done. I would definitely go this route.
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I weld for a living and unless you heat it unreasonably hot, you aren't going to take the temper out of it. A good mig or tig welder with a skilled operator will do this just fine. As far as putting a new pad on, since you have the stock one off there, put a bigger one on there so that it has a bigger footprint and won't sink into the pavement as easily. Just some of my ramblings.
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With the bike being lowered, is it more difficult to get it up on the center stand?
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I weld for a living and unless you heat it unreasonably hot, you aren't going to take the temper out of it. A good mig or tig welder with a skilled operator will do this just fine. As far as putting a new pad on, since you have the stock one off there, put a bigger one on there so that it has a bigger footprint and won't sink into the pavement as easily. Just some of my ramblings.
That's right!!! I totally agree, even puddle pusher could weld this up, I can show my 9 yr old daughter with a stick welder and let her do it. We ain't talking about building a bridge, or sending a Space Shuttle up.
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I weld for a living and unless you heat it unreasonably hot, you aren't going to take the temper out of it. A good mig or tig welder with a skilled operator will do this just fine. As far as putting a new pad on, since you have the stock one off there, put a bigger one on there so that it has a bigger footprint and won't sink into the pavement as easily. Just some of my ramblings.
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