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			<title>Would U buy a discounted 2008 CBR1000RR??</title>
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			<description>Hey guys, I can pick up a brand new 2008 CBR1000RR for $7600+tax.

Ive heard about many issues with burning oil, and multiple recalls.

Dealer says all recalls have been done, and at this price it is hard to say no, but somthing tells me I should pass on the deal..??</description>
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<div>Hey guys, I can pick up a brand new 2008 CBR1000RR for $7600+tax.<br />
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Ive heard about many issues with burning oil, and multiple recalls.<br />
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Dealer says all recalls have been done, and at this price it is hard to say no, but somthing tells me I should pass on the deal..??</div>


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			<title>Carbon Fiber Buckle Guard: 848-1098-1198</title>
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<a href="http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1914%7C848%2F1098%2F1198%20Body%2C%20Windscreens%2C%20%26%20Mirrors&productID=7687&showDetail=1&categoryID=1285|848%2F1098%2F1198%20Protection&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts" target="_blank">*CF Buckle Guard: 848-1098-1198*</a>High quality pre-preg carbon fiber Buckle Guard with a glossy automotive UV protectant applied for protection and shine. Design wraps around the edges for a perfect fit.
The cover makes a great cosmetic enhancement to the bike as well as providing protection to the fuel tanks from normal every day use. 
 
- Fits Ducati 848, 1098, and 1198 with silicone adhesive or double sided tape.
 
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<font size="2">The cover makes a great cosmetic enhancement to the bike as well as providing protection to the fuel tanks from normal every day use.</font> <br />
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<font size="2">- Fits Ducati 848, 1098, and 1198 with silicone adhesive or double sided tape.</font><br />
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			<title>Florida Z1000 gathering</title>
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			<title>Hackers show Global Warming fraud</title>
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In 1995 a scientist by the name of Dr. David Deming wrote an innocuous paper in the academic journal Science where he reviewed analysis of bore hole data(temperature proxy) and concluded that North America had warmed to some degree over the last century to century and a half. This conclusion mistakenly led supporters of the theory of anthropogenic global warming to believe that Dr. Deming was in their camp lock stock and barrel. And allegedly lead a scientist who Dr. Deming referred to only as "major researcher in the area of climate change" sending him an e-mail where the unnamed scientists said "We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period." The Medieval warm peroid of course being the documented high temperatures that lasted from 800-1300. This period was a thorn in the back of the AGW movement as it was considered to be fact at the time of the first IPCC assessment. The first PCC assessment fell flat on its face as it could not show that temperatures at the present were higher than the Medieval Warm period. A few years after this supposed exchange occurred a major researcher in the area of climate change Dr. Michael Mann through the use of tree ring analysis, which amounts to little more than glorified palm reading, was able to conclude that the Medieval warm period was in fact simply a regional warming, regionally confined to areas that had the ability to document the warm period in the historical record which of course cant be manipulated by statistics.

This allegation by Dr. Deming has long been held by skeptics to be evidence of collusion by climate scientists to advance the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Support for this claim of collusion was further reinforced by Dr. Eugene Wegamns network analysis of scientific papers in support of anthropogenic global warming which showed that despite lots of supporting papers their was in efect only a small group of scientists producing the lions share of the work, co-authoring papers together and reviewing each other papers in the vaunted peer-review process. When compared with network analysis of other fields this narrow field was extremely inbred, greatly reducing the reliability of peer review and increasing the odds of collusion and scientific fraud. Steve McIntry of climateaudit.org likes to call them the hockey team.

But despite his there has never been a smoking gun. Just too good to be true coincidences.

Well today the gun is smoking its breaking all over the News now. A group of hackers or single hacker hacked the e-mail accounts at Hadley CRU, Britain's largest climate research institute and a proponent of AGW and found numerous e-mail coming to and from some of the worlds top scientists like the afore mentioned Dr. Mann.

Quote:

<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y20" target="_blank">Examiner 404 - page not found</a> 09m11d19-Hadley-CRU-hacked-with-release-of-hundreds-of-docs-and-emails

The University of East Anglia's Hadley Climatic Research Centre appears to have suffered a security breach earlier today, when an unknown hacker apparently downloaded 1079 e-mails and 72 documents of various types and published them to an anonymous FTP server. These files appear to contain highly sensitive information that, if genuine, could prove extremely embarrassing to the authors of the e-mails involved. Those authors include some of the most celebrated names among proponents of the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).

The FTP link first appeared on a blog called The Air Vent. The blog's owner, identified as "Jeff Id", downloaded the file, examined it, and posted a brief summary on his blog. Another commenter, identified as "Steven Mosher," passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's Climate Audit blog and to another blog, The Blackboard, run by a blogger identified as "Lucia." Most recently, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog titled "Watts Up With That?" mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.

Commentary on all the blogs involved has been brisk, except, oddly enough, at The Air Vent, where only seven comments have been received.

The FTP server is in a Russian domain and uses the anonymous FTP protocol, which does not require a pre-registered user account or password for downloading. The file is named FOI2009.zip, an apparent reference to US Public Law 89-554, 80 Stat. 383, the Freedom of Information Act.

Several commentators have expressed skepticism as to the authenticity of the archive, pointing to its lack of clear provenance and suggesting that someone was attempting to embarrass, either directly or indirectly, the dignitaries attending the upcoming climate-change conference in Copenhagen. Other commentators who have examined the e-mails in the archive conclude that the header and other information that they contain is too detailed to be a hoax. Thus far, no commentator has found anything in the e-mail headers that appears to be mistaken.

Some of the most embarrassing e-mails are attributed to Philip Jones, the Director of the CRU; Keith Briffa, his assistant; Michael E. Mann of the University of Virginia; Malcolm Hughes at the University of Arizona; and others. One such e-mail makes references to the famous "hockey-stick" graph published by Mann in the journal Nature:

I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.

The emphasis in the above quote was added.

Mr. Mosher offered this summary of the rest of the e-mails that he had found:

And, you get to see somebody with the name of phil jones say that he would rather destroy the CRU data than release it to McIntyre. And lots lots more. including how to obstruct or evade FOIA requests. and guess who funded the collection of cores at Yamal.. and transferred money into a personal account in Russia[.] And you get to see what they really say behind the curtain.. you get to see how they “shape” the news, how they struggled between telling the truth and making policy makers happy. [Y]ou get to see what they say about Idso and pat micheals, you get to read how they want to take us out into a dark alley, it’s stunning all very stunning. You get to watch somebody named phil jones say that John daly’s death is good news.. or words to that effect. I don’t know that its real.. But the CRU code looks real

John Daly (not to be confused with the professional golfer of the same name) is identified in one of the e-mails as a global-warming skeptic who died in January of 2004.

As embarrassing as the e-mails are, some of the documents are more embarrassing. They include a five-page PDF document titled The Rules of the Game, that appears to be a primer for propagating the AGW message to the average subject/resident of the United Kingdom. The document suggests that it is a precis of a longer document housed at the Web site of the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.

Developing...

Update: The Russian FTP server administrator appears to have deleted the archive. The text of the link was: <http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip>

Activity on The Air Vent has picked up considerably since this story broke.

Further Update: Two other possessors of the file have uploaded it to two other file-sharing services: MegaUpload and FileDropper.

Further Update: A Pirate Bay torrent link is now available.

Also: The "72 documents" refers to 72 files and folders at the top level of a directory called "documents." In fact, reliable counts indicate at least 3485 documents present, not counting the e-mails.


I expect to see a lot of spin on this like it depends on what the definition of is ... is. The word trick in the above example is already being picked apart by new outlets like the guardian but as McIntyre points out Dr. Mann himself (yes that is Mike) denied using this trick on his own blog Realclimate when it was first alleged 5 years ago.
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				In 1995 a scientist by the name of Dr. David Deming wrote an innocuous paper in the academic journal Science where he reviewed analysis of bore hole data(temperature proxy) and concluded that North America had warmed to some degree over the last century to century and a half. This conclusion mistakenly led supporters of the theory of anthropogenic global warming to believe that Dr. Deming was in their camp lock stock and barrel. And allegedly lead a scientist who Dr. Deming referred to only as &quot;major researcher in the area of climate change&quot; sending him an e-mail where the unnamed scientists said &quot;We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.&quot; The Medieval warm peroid of course being the documented high temperatures that lasted from 800-1300. This period was a thorn in the back of the AGW movement as it was considered to be fact at the time of the first IPCC assessment. The first PCC assessment fell flat on its face as it could not show that temperatures at the present were higher than the Medieval Warm period. A few years after this supposed exchange occurred a major researcher in the area of climate change Dr. Michael Mann through the use of tree ring analysis, which amounts to little more than glorified palm reading, was able to conclude that the Medieval warm period was in fact simply a regional warming, regionally confined to areas that had the ability to document the warm period in the historical record which of course cant be manipulated by statistics.<br />
<br />
This allegation by Dr. Deming has long been held by skeptics to be evidence of collusion by climate scientists to advance the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Support for this claim of collusion was further reinforced by Dr. Eugene Wegamns network analysis of scientific papers in support of anthropogenic global warming which showed that despite lots of supporting papers their was in efect only a small group of scientists producing the lions share of the work, co-authoring papers together and reviewing each other papers in the vaunted peer-review process. When compared with network analysis of other fields this narrow field was extremely inbred, greatly reducing the reliability of peer review and increasing the odds of collusion and scientific fraud. Steve McIntry of climateaudit.org likes to call them the hockey team.<br />
<br />
But despite his there has never been a smoking gun. Just too good to be true coincidences.<br />
<br />
Well today the gun is smoking its breaking all over the News now. A group of hackers or single hacker hacked the e-mail accounts at Hadley CRU, Britain's largest climate research institute and a proponent of AGW and found numerous e-mail coming to and from some of the worlds top scientists like the afore mentioned Dr. Mann.<br />
<br />
Quote:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y20" target="_blank">Examiner 404 - page not found</a> 09m11d19-Hadley-CRU-hacked-with-release-of-hundreds-of-docs-and-emails<br />
<br />
The University of East Anglia's Hadley Climatic Research Centre appears to have suffered a security breach earlier today, when an unknown hacker apparently downloaded 1079 e-mails and 72 documents of various types and published them to an anonymous FTP server. These files appear to contain highly sensitive information that, if genuine, could prove extremely embarrassing to the authors of the e-mails involved. Those authors include some of the most celebrated names among proponents of the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).<br />
<br />
The FTP link first appeared on a blog called The Air Vent. The blog's owner, identified as &quot;Jeff Id&quot;, downloaded the file, examined it, and posted a brief summary on his blog. Another commenter, identified as &quot;Steven Mosher,&quot; passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's Climate Audit blog and to another blog, The Blackboard, run by a blogger identified as &quot;Lucia.&quot; Most recently, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog titled &quot;Watts Up With That?&quot; mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.<br />
<br />
Commentary on all the blogs involved has been brisk, except, oddly enough, at The Air Vent, where only seven comments have been received.<br />
<br />
The FTP server is in a Russian domain and uses the anonymous FTP protocol, which does not require a pre-registered user account or password for downloading. The file is named FOI2009.zip, an apparent reference to US Public Law 89-554, 80 Stat. 383, the Freedom of Information Act.<br />
<br />
Several commentators have expressed skepticism as to the authenticity of the archive, pointing to its lack of clear provenance and suggesting that someone was attempting to embarrass, either directly or indirectly, the dignitaries attending the upcoming climate-change conference in Copenhagen. Other commentators who have examined the e-mails in the archive conclude that the header and other information that they contain is too detailed to be a hoax. Thus far, no commentator has found anything in the e-mail headers that appears to be mistaken.<br />
<br />
Some of the most embarrassing e-mails are attributed to Philip Jones, the Director of the CRU; Keith Briffa, his assistant; Michael E. Mann of the University of Virginia; Malcolm Hughes at the University of Arizona; and others. One such e-mail makes references to the famous &quot;hockey-stick&quot; graph published by Mann in the journal Nature:<br />
<br />
I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.<br />
<br />
The emphasis in the above quote was added.<br />
<br />
Mr. Mosher offered this summary of the rest of the e-mails that he had found:<br />
<br />
And, you get to see somebody with the name of phil jones say that he would rather destroy the CRU data than release it to McIntyre. And lots lots more. including how to obstruct or evade FOIA requests. and guess who funded the collection of cores at Yamal.. and transferred money into a personal account in Russia[.] And you get to see what they really say behind the curtain.. you get to see how they “shape” the news, how they struggled between telling the truth and making policy makers happy. [Y]ou get to see what they say about Idso and pat micheals, you get to read how they want to take us out into a dark alley, it’s stunning all very stunning. You get to watch somebody named phil jones say that John daly’s death is good news.. or words to that effect. I don’t know that its real.. But the CRU code looks real<br />
<br />
John Daly (not to be confused with the professional golfer of the same name) is identified in one of the e-mails as a global-warming skeptic who died in January of 2004.<br />
<br />
As embarrassing as the e-mails are, some of the documents are more embarrassing. They include a five-page PDF document titled The Rules of the Game, that appears to be a primer for propagating the AGW message to the average subject/resident of the United Kingdom. The document suggests that it is a precis of a longer document housed at the Web site of the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.<br />
<br />
Developing...<br />
<br />
Update: The Russian FTP server administrator appears to have deleted the archive. The text of the link was: &lt;http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip&gt;<br />
<br />
Activity on The Air Vent has picked up considerably since this story broke.<br />
<br />
Further Update: Two other possessors of the file have uploaded it to two other file-sharing services: MegaUpload and FileDropper.<br />
<br />
Further Update: A Pirate Bay torrent link is now available.<br />
<br />
Also: The &quot;72 documents&quot; refers to 72 files and folders at the top level of a directory called &quot;documents.&quot; In fact, reliable counts indicate at least 3485 documents present, not counting the e-mails.<br />
<br />
<br />
I expect to see a lot of spin on this like it depends on what the definition of is ... is. The word trick in the above example is already being picked apart by new outlets like the guardian but as McIntyre points out Dr. Mann himself (yes that is Mike) denied using this trick on his own blog Realclimate when it was first alleged 5 years ago.
			
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			<title>HD.....Focus on core brand?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:45:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Yup, I hear you.....
<a href="http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/LATEST+NEWS/EICMA-ATK-Partners-With-Hyosung-Plans-to-Enter-Str/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/641660?contextCategoryId=48447" target="_blank">EICMA: ATK Partners With Hyosung, Plans to Enter Street Market - Dealernews</a>


I knew axxing Buell was bullshit.]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/LATEST+NEWS/EICMA-ATK-Partners-With-Hyosung-Plans-to-Enter-Str/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/641660?contextCategoryId=48447" target="_blank">EICMA: ATK Partners With Hyosung, Plans to Enter Street Market - Dealernews</a><br />
<br />
<br />
I knew axxing Buell was bullshit.</div>


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			<title>Motorcycle podcast</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:05:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Like motorcycling? Like podcasts? So do we.

The Pace Podcast focuses on the "real life" riders; the commuters, the casual tourers, the sport-touring enthusiasts and the street-bike riders. We discuss news and products for the riders who have made motorcycling part of their regular lives.

The Podcast will offer technical advice, product reviews, service and maintenance tips. We'll discuss tools and equipment for those who perform their own maintenance. We'll discuss modifying a bike to fit a rider's needs and his life. We will talk about being a motorcyclist on a real-world budget, juggling family and career while enjoying this great sport.


Join us on The Pace Podcast at <a href="http://thepacepodcast.com" target="_blank">The Pace Podcast</a> or find us in the iTunes store (<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=337019388" target="_blank">iTunes Store</a>).

Email questions or listener feedback to feedback@thepacepodcast.com

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<div>Like motorcycling? Like podcasts? So do we.<br />
<br />
The Pace Podcast focuses on the &quot;real life&quot; riders; the commuters, the casual tourers, the sport-touring enthusiasts and the street-bike riders. We discuss news and products for the riders who have made motorcycling part of their regular lives.<br />
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The Podcast will offer technical advice, product reviews, service and maintenance tips. We'll discuss tools and equipment for those who perform their own maintenance. We'll discuss modifying a bike to fit a rider's needs and his life. We will talk about being a motorcyclist on a real-world budget, juggling family and career while enjoying this great sport.<br />
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			<title>What caused all this mess?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Talking about the Housing meltdown and subsequent recession everywhere.

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The government placed regulators over the banks to ensure 'equal' numbers of loans where being given out to all people, regardless of wealth, race, credit ratings, etc.

The banks had to prove they where giving loans out 'equally' therefore a great deal of loans went out to traditionally unqualified buyers, who didn't have the means to weather an economic downturn, and in such conditions defaulted in record numbers. 

Further exasperating the problem is the government through GSE's went in and backed up many of these loans with federal dollars putting us all on the hook for this, all be it equal, but impractical 'experiment' The GSE's then bundled these risky loans and sold them on the open market to increase their bottom lines. It's was one giant government influenced, financed, disaster.
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<div>Talking about the Housing meltdown and subsequent recession everywhere.<br />
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				The government placed regulators over the banks to ensure 'equal' numbers of loans where being given out to all people, regardless of wealth, race, credit ratings, etc.<br />
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The banks had to prove they where giving loans out 'equally' therefore a great deal of loans went out to traditionally unqualified buyers, who didn't have the means to weather an economic downturn, and in such conditions defaulted in record numbers. <br />
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Further exasperating the problem is the government through GSE's went in and backed up many of these loans with federal dollars putting us all on the hook for this, all be it equal, but impractical 'experiment' The GSE's then bundled these risky loans and sold them on the open market to increase their bottom lines. It's was one giant government influenced, financed, disaster.
			
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			<title>The importance of Timshel</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm re-reading one of my favourite books right now, John Steinbeck's East of Eden. Below is an excerpt from the book which deals with man and the nature of sin. I enjoy the passage so much that I thought I'd share it here, and am interested in hearing from you folks if you think that what Steinbeck is saying here is valid and of merit.

First off, a bit of background. The discussion at hand is regarding the naming of Adam Trask's two sons. They begin by looking at the story of Cain and Abel, and then into the nature of the wording of the passage. I'll do my best to make it flow and be logical.


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Lee cleared the table and gave each of the boys a clean drumstick. They sat solemnly holding their greasy batons and alternately inspecting and sucking them. The wine and the glasses stayed on the table.

  "We'd best get on with the naming," Samuel said. "I can feel a little tightening on my halter from Liza."

  "I can't think what to name them," Adam said.

"You have no family name you want - no inviting trap for a rich relative, no proud name to re-create?"

"No, I'd like them to start fresh, insofar as that is possible."

Samuel knocked his forehead with his knuckles. "What a shame," he said. "What a shame it is that the proper names for them they cannot have."

"What do you mean?" Adam asked.

"Freshness, you said. I thought last night-" He paused. "Have you thought of you own name?"

"Mine?"

"Of course. Your first-born - Cain and Abel."

Adam said, "Oh, no. No, we can't do that."

"I know we can't. That would be tempting whatever fate there is. But isn't it odd that Cain is maybe the best-known name in the whole world and as far as I know only one man has ever borne it?"

Lee said, "Maybe that's why the name has never changed its emphasis."
Adam looked into the ink-red wine in his glass. "I got a shiver when you mentioned it." he said.

......skipping a page......

Samuel said, "Now it goes this way. 'And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, "I have gotten a man from the Lord." ' "

Adam started to speak and Samuel looked up at him and he was silent and covered his eyes with his hand. Samuel read, " 'And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground and offering unto the Lord. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering. But unto Cain and to his offering he had not repsect."

Lee sad, "Now there-no, go on, go on. We'll come back."

Samuel read, "" 'And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. And the Lord said unto Cain, "Why art thou wroth? And why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."

" 'And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and slew him. And the Lord said unto Cain, "Where is  Abel thy brother?" And he said, "I know not. AM I my brother's keeper?" And he said "What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. When thou tillest the ground it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth." And Cain said unto the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, though hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth, and from thy face shall I be hid. And I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass that everyone that findeth me shall slay me." And the Lord said unto him, "Therefore whoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden.' "
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Now, that's the story of Cain and Abel. Here is the discussion behind the meaning of the message.


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Samuel said, "Let's hear your story, Lee."

The Chinese reached to the side of his neck and he smiled. "I wonder whether I'll ever get used to the lack of a queue," he said. "I guess I used it more than I knew. Yes, the story. I told you, Mr. Hamilton (Samuel), that I was growing more Chinese. Do you ever grow more Irish?"

"It comes and goes," said Samuel.

"Do you remember when you read us the sixteen verses of the fourth chapter of Genesis and we argued about them?"

"I do indeed. And that's a long time ago."

"Ten years nearly." said Lee. "Well, the story bit deeply into me and I went into it word for word. The more I thought about the story, the more profound it became to me. Then I compared the translations we have - and they were fairly close. There was only one place that bothered me. The King James version says this - it is when Jehovah has asked Cain why he is angry. Jehovah says, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou does well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.' It was the 'thou shalt' that struck me, because it was a promise that Cain would conquer sin."

Samuel nodded. "And his children didn't do it entirely," he said.

Lee sipped his coffee. "Then I got a copy of the American Standard Bible. It was very new then. And it was different in this passage. It says, "Do thou rule over him.' Now this is very different. This is not a promise, it is an order. And I began to stew about it. I wondered what the original word of the original writer had been that these very different translations could be made."

Samuel put his palms down on the table and leaned forward and the old young light came into his eyes. "Lee," he said, "don't tell me you studied Hebrew!"

Lee said, "I'm going to tell you. And it's a fairly long story, though Rhetorik is cutting out filler."

"Well, to go on, I went to San Francisco to the headquarters of our family association. Do you know about them? Our great families have centers where any member can get help or give it. The Lee family is very large. I went there because in our family there are a number of ancient reverend gentlemen who are great scholars. They are thinkers in exactness. I respectfully submitted my problem to one of these sages, read him the story, and told him what I understood from it. The next night four of them met and called me in. We discussed the story all night long."

"After two years we felt that we could approach your sixteen verses of the fourth chapter of Genesis. My old gentlemen felt that these words were very important too - "Thou shalt" and "Do thou". And this is was the gold from our mining: "*Thou mayest". 'Thou mayest rule over sin*.' "

Samuel said, "It's a fantastic story. And I've tried to follow and maybe I've missed somewhere. Why is this word so important?"

Lee's hand shook as he filled the delicate cups. He drank his down in one gulp. "Don't you see?" he cried. "The American Standard translation *orders* men to triumph over sin, and you can call sin ignorance. The King James translation makes a promise in 'Thou shalt,' meaning that men will surely triumph over sin. But the Hebrew word, the word *timshel* - 'Thou mayest' - that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if 'Thou mayest' - it is also true that 'Thou mayest not.' Don't you see?"

"Yes, I see. I do see. But you do not believe this is divine law. Why do you feel its importance?"

"Ah!" said Lee. "I've wanted to tell you this for a long time. I even anticipated your questions and I am well prepared. Any writing which has influenced the thinking and the lives of innumerable people is important. Now, there are many millions in their sects and churches who feel the order, 'Do thou.' and throw their weight into obedience. And there are millions more who feel predestination in 'Thou shalt.' Nothing they may do can interfere with that will be. But 'Thou mayest'! Why, that makes a man great, that gives him stature with the gods, for in his weakness and his filth and his murder of his brother he has still the great choice. He can choose his course and fight it through and win." Lee's voice was a chant of triumph.

Adam said, "Do you believe that, Lee?"

"Yes, I do. Yes, I do. It is easy out of laziness, out of weakness, to throw oneself into the lap of deity, saying, 'I couldn't help it; the way was set.' But think of the glory of the choice! That makes a man a man. A cat has no choice, a bee must make honey. There's no godliness there."
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Yes, it's a long read. I found it well worth it though, and hope some others find it of interest as well.]]></description>
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<div>I'm re-reading one of my favourite books right now, John Steinbeck's East of Eden. Below is an excerpt from the book which deals with man and the nature of sin. I enjoy the passage so much that I thought I'd share it here, and am interested in hearing from you folks if you think that what Steinbeck is saying here is valid and of merit.<br />
<br />
First off, a bit of background. The discussion at hand is regarding the naming of Adam Trask's two sons. They begin by looking at the story of Cain and Abel, and then into the nature of the wording of the passage. I'll do my best to make it flow and be logical.<br />
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Lee cleared the table and gave each of the boys a clean drumstick. They sat solemnly holding their greasy batons and alternately inspecting and sucking them. The wine and the glasses stayed on the table.<br />
<br />
  &quot;We'd best get on with the naming,&quot; Samuel said. &quot;I can feel a little tightening on my halter from Liza.&quot;<br />
<br />
  &quot;I can't think what to name them,&quot; Adam said.<br />
<br />
&quot;You have no family name you want - no inviting trap for a rich relative, no proud name to re-create?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;No, I'd like them to start fresh, insofar as that is possible.&quot;<br />
<br />
Samuel knocked his forehead with his knuckles. &quot;What a shame,&quot; he said. &quot;What a shame it is that the proper names for them they cannot have.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;What do you mean?&quot; Adam asked.<br />
<br />
&quot;Freshness, you said. I thought last night-&quot; He paused. &quot;Have you thought of you own name?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Mine?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Of course. Your first-born - Cain and Abel.&quot;<br />
<br />
Adam said, &quot;Oh, no. No, we can't do that.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;I know we can't. That would be tempting whatever fate there is. But isn't it odd that Cain is maybe the best-known name in the whole world and as far as I know only one man has ever borne it?&quot;<br />
<br />
Lee said, &quot;Maybe that's why the name has never changed its emphasis.&quot;<br />
Adam looked into the ink-red wine in his glass. &quot;I got a shiver when you mentioned it.&quot; he said.<br />
<br />
......skipping a page......<br />
<br />
Samuel said, &quot;Now it goes this way. 'And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, &quot;I have gotten a man from the Lord.&quot; ' &quot;<br />
<br />
Adam started to speak and Samuel looked up at him and he was silent and covered his eyes with his hand. Samuel read, &quot; 'And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground and offering unto the Lord. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering. But unto Cain and to his offering he had not repsect.&quot;<br />
<br />
Lee sad, &quot;Now there-no, go on, go on. We'll come back.&quot;<br />
<br />
Samuel read, &quot;&quot; 'And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. And the Lord said unto Cain, &quot;Why art thou wroth? And why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot; 'And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and slew him. And the Lord said unto Cain, &quot;Where is  Abel thy brother?&quot; And he said, &quot;I know not. AM I my brother's keeper?&quot; And he said &quot;What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. When thou tillest the ground it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.&quot; And Cain said unto the Lord, &quot;My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, though hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth, and from thy face shall I be hid. And I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass that everyone that findeth me shall slay me.&quot; And the Lord said unto him, &quot;Therefore whoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.&quot; And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden.' &quot;</div>
			
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Samuel said, &quot;Let's hear your story, Lee.&quot;<br />
<br />
The Chinese reached to the side of his neck and he smiled. &quot;I wonder whether I'll ever get used to the lack of a queue,&quot; he said. &quot;I guess I used it more than I knew. Yes, the story. I told you, Mr. Hamilton (Samuel), that I was growing more Chinese. Do you ever grow more Irish?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;It comes and goes,&quot; said Samuel.<br />
<br />
&quot;Do you remember when you read us the sixteen verses of the fourth chapter of Genesis and we argued about them?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;I do indeed. And that's a long time ago.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Ten years nearly.&quot; said Lee. &quot;Well, the story bit deeply into me and I went into it word for word. The more I thought about the story, the more profound it became to me. Then I compared the translations we have - and they were fairly close. There was only one place that bothered me. The King James version says this - it is when Jehovah has asked Cain why he is angry. Jehovah says, &quot;If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou does well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and <i>thou shalt</i> rule over him.' It was the 'thou shalt' that struck me, because it was a promise that Cain would conquer sin.&quot;<br />
<br />
Samuel nodded. &quot;And his children didn't do it entirely,&quot; he said.<br />
<br />
Lee sipped his coffee. &quot;Then I got a copy of the American Standard Bible. It was very new then. And it was different in this passage. It says, &quot;<i>Do thou</i> rule over him.' Now this is very different. This is not a promise, it is an order. And I began to stew about it. I wondered what the original word of the original writer had been that these very different translations could be made.&quot;<br />
<br />
Samuel put his palms down on the table and leaned forward and the old young light came into his eyes. &quot;Lee,&quot; he said, &quot;don't tell me you studied Hebrew!&quot;<br />
<br />
Lee said, &quot;I'm going to tell you. And it's a fairly long story, though Rhetorik is cutting out filler.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Well, to go on, I went to San Francisco to the headquarters of our family association. Do you know about them? Our great families have centers where any member can get help or give it. The Lee family is very large. I went there because in our family there are a number of ancient reverend gentlemen who are great scholars. They are thinkers in exactness. I respectfully submitted my problem to one of these sages, read him the story, and told him what I understood from it. The next night four of them met and called me in. We discussed the story all night long.&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;After two years we felt that we could approach your sixteen verses of the fourth chapter of Genesis. My old gentlemen felt that these words were very important too - &quot;Thou shalt&quot; and &quot;Do thou&quot;. And this is was the gold from our mining: &quot;<b>Thou mayest&quot;. 'Thou mayest rule over sin</b>.' &quot;<br />
<br />
Samuel said, &quot;It's a fantastic story. And I've tried to follow and maybe I've missed somewhere. Why is this word so important?&quot;<br />
<br />
Lee's hand shook as he filled the delicate cups. He drank his down in one gulp. &quot;Don't you see?&quot; he cried. &quot;The American Standard translation <b>orders</b> men to triumph over sin, and you can call sin ignorance. The King James translation makes a promise in 'Thou shalt,' meaning that men will surely triumph over sin. But the Hebrew word, the word <b>timshel</b> - 'Thou mayest' - that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if 'Thou mayest' - it is also true that 'Thou mayest not.' Don't you see?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Yes, I see. I do see. But you do not believe this is divine law. Why do you feel its importance?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Ah!&quot; said Lee. &quot;I've wanted to tell you this for a long time. I even anticipated your questions and I am well prepared. Any writing which has influenced the thinking and the lives of innumerable people is important. Now, there are many millions in their sects and churches who feel the order, 'Do thou.' and throw their weight into obedience. And there are millions more who feel predestination in 'Thou shalt.' Nothing they may do can interfere with that will be. But 'Thou mayest'! Why, that makes a man great, that gives him stature with the gods, for in his weakness and his filth and his murder of his brother he has still the great choice. He can choose his course and fight it through and win.&quot; Lee's voice was a chant of triumph.<br />
<br />
Adam said, &quot;Do you believe that, Lee?&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Yes, I do. Yes, I do. It is easy out of laziness, out of weakness, to throw oneself into the lap of deity, saying, 'I couldn't help it; the way was set.' But think of the glory of the choice! That makes a man a man. A cat has no choice, a bee must make honey. There's no godliness there.&quot;</div>
			
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			<title>Oil smell</title>
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			<description>I just picked up a 2005 FZ6 with 500 miles on it. When I stop at stop signs I get a faint oil smell. Does this bike have a breather that I could be smelling? I have a sensitive nose, so this could also be a normal thing. I have been checking the oil level and it does not seem to be going down and the oil is still clean so I dont think it is blow by in the cylinders. This bike is also still in its break in period, could it be something that it will just grow out of?

Thanks for the help</description>
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<div>I just picked up a 2005 FZ6 with 500 miles on it. When I stop at stop signs I get a faint oil smell. Does this bike have a breather that I could be smelling? I have a sensitive nose, so this could also be a normal thing. I have been checking the oil level and it does not seem to be going down and the oil is still clean so I dont think it is blow by in the cylinders. This bike is also still in its break in period, could it be something that it will just grow out of?<br />
<br />
Thanks for the help</div>


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			<title>Why are people so stupid?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:28:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Might as well continue the trend here...</description>
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			<title>Why is God so stupid?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:25:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm talking about the capital "G" God here, you know the Judeo/Christian/Big "A" Allah Islam god.

Why would he allow one species to reproduce so much that it would consume so many resources and pollute the planet, causing the extinction of other species?

After all isn't this planet actually Eden?  What is so special about humans?

Discuss.]]></description>
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<div>I'm talking about the capital &quot;G&quot; God here, you know the Judeo/Christian/Big &quot;A&quot; Allah Islam god.<br />
<br />
Why would he allow one species to reproduce so much that it would consume so many resources and pollute the planet, causing the extinction of other species?<br />
<br />
After all isn't this planet actually Eden?  What is so special about humans?<br />
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Discuss.</div>


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			<title>Was perusing the Dainese site:  Holy Crap!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:41:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Their new stuff is really nice


Racing.  I like it a lot
Image: http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533619_684_F.png 


This is pretty cool looking (Retro)
Image: http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533607_L76_F_S.png 


Jury is still out on this one (Freddy).  
Image: http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533610_L80_F_S.png 


I love brown jackets.  And I am almost certainly getting this jacket next (uinless I get the Racing) but I have to buy it in black. I have too many brown jackets as it is
Image: http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533574_004_F_S.png 



They finally wised up and gave this jacket a zipper to attach pants.  This has now jumped back to the top of my list for summer jackets.  Plus its a lot cheaper than the Santa Monica
Image: http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533582_L91_F_S.png </description>
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<div>Their new stuff is really nice<br />
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Racing.  I like it a lot<br />
<img src="http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533619_684_F.png" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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This is pretty cool looking (Retro)<br />
<img src="http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533607_L76_F_S.png" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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Jury is still out on this one (Freddy).  <br />
<img src="http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533610_L80_F_S.png" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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I love brown jackets.  And I am almost certainly getting this jacket next (uinless I get the Racing) but I have to buy it in black. I have too many brown jackets as it is<br />
<img src="http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533574_004_F_S.png" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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They finally wised up and gave this jacket a zipper to attach pants.  This has now jumped back to the top of my list for summer jackets.  Plus its a lot cheaper than the Santa Monica<br />
<img src="http://www.dainese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/209/front_image/450x560/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/1/5/1533582_L91_F_S.png" border="0" alt="" /></div>


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			<title>Hey Ladies!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>New to the site and wanted to say hello. Just bought my bike Monday and hoping to suck up as much info from this place as I can! Glad to find a spot where I can chat with other bike chicks:)</description>
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<div>New to the site and wanted to say hello. Just bought my bike Monday and hoping to suck up as much info from this place as I can! Glad to find a spot where I can chat with other bike chicks:)</div>


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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:50:35 GMT</pubDate>
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