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I've been in traffic court before (1 time). Which I would have gotten the ticket removed (judge told me face to face) but my witness slipped on a testimony. So I've learned a bit.
tarosean I meant the first points removed from my license this year. So first violation this year.
dealsgapdragon thank you very much for the info, reviewing all
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I've been in traffic court before (1 time). Which I would have gotten the ticket removed (judge told me face to face) but my witness slipped on a testimony. So I've learned a bit.
tarosean I meant the first points removed from my license this year. So first violation this year.
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The key issue in your case is whther or not you confessed to a crime.
It sounds like the cop never used radar, or failed to get a lock on your speed which makes radar useless. All cops are required to first guestimate speed, then use radar to "confirm" the speed.
Since the guestimated speed was wrong according to you, the cop's next tactic was to bluff you into a confession to the crime of speeding. Cops normally ask something like, "Do you know how fast you were going," or "I clocked you at 180 mph, does that sound right to you?" The typical answer by sheeple is, "That's impossible! I was only going 70 mph!" That's called a CONFESSION TO A CRIME when the speed limit is 60 mph. This makes the defendant the prosecution's star witness at trial. The correct answer is STFU and let the cop move on to the next question, "Can I see you license?" Not "No, do you know how fast I was going?" which will perhaps get you tasered for "being smart" ( which can then win you a $40,000 paycheck from police in a civil rights lawsuit).
If you did confess, the cop made written notes (cheat sheet) of that confession on the back of HIS copy of the ticket, and will "refresh his amnesia" at trial and testify about your confession. It's also 99% certain he recorded your confession using his belt-mike or shoulder mike, by radio transmission to his car for recording on the videotape of your traffic stop.
That police video is only used in court when 5% of defendants refuse to plead guilty. The prosecutor will make you sit down with the cop in a little room and watch your confession on video - a VERY uncomfotable thing to do for most drivers who tend to freak out during traffic stops - to coerce a plea of guilty. Most drivers don't know enough law to know what they are looking at on police video, since they are pro se without a lawyer, so they fail to see things that can win their case.
LOOK CLOSELY AT THE POLICE VIDEO! Most police videos will show the cop breaking numerous laws, like speeding (racing) to catch up, without the mandatory use of emergency lights and siren (great Equal Protection Constitutional defense if the cop is not prosecuted for HIS crimes). You see this every day on TV, on COPS and Speeders TV show. That's why cops try to edit that part out of the tape, and only show the actual traffic stop, which is also good, because then it fails to show the defendant perping a crime (except for that darn confession!).
Hiring a lawyer is a good first step to learning how to win in traffic court.
It means you are finally mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.
It means you're finally ready to start learning how traffic court works.
It means you're finally ready to put your money where your mouth is.
It means that after you pay a lawyer to get a case dismissed, you might see that you could do just as good a job, or better, pro se without a lawyer.
My top choices as must-have items, with or without a lawyer:
1. Free Video: Pastor Rick Strawcutter preaches How Any Idiot Can Beat A RADAR Speeding Ticket
2. Free Ebook: How to Beat a Speeding Ticket by BikerLawyer.net
3. Book: Beat Your Ticket - Pro se by lawyers at Nolo Press, online or in stock at your local bookstore
The other links are for advanced study, when you're ready to really kick ass and do things only class action lawyers do, and then some.
The first ticket I decided to fight was in 2000 for "reckless driving" ("illegal lane change") at 50 mph in a 55 zone on the interstate (no wheelie), on my rusty old 1984 Honda Nighthawk, top speed 75 mph. I didn't care what it cost to beat that scam, so I hired a lawyer for $200, after I personally bought a copy of the cop's personnel file, which confessed he'd crashed his own copcar into innocent bystanders in 4 crashes in his 5 years as a cop. His in-car video showed him cutting in and out of traffic, passing cars and driving off-road like a lunatic. Case dismissed, but with the scam that I (the winner) paid court costs. Only losers in court pay court costs, so that's when I figured out I could do a better job than a lawyer, especially now that I ride a 160 mph sportbike. But at least the cop was demoted to desk jocky. MAD Defense = Mutally Assured Destruction.
The second ticket I decided to fight was a $10 parking ticket - on my own private parking space on my own private property. That was my first pro se trial without a lawyer. Took 2 years on appeal to win, city had to pay $600 court costs to state court, and I got the city court clerk fired for embezzlement, and for extortion of court employees "bonus paychecks" (a VERY common felony perped by police and other govt employees), after I subpoenaed the court clerk to testify about 75,000 annual parking tickets missing from the court docket, with zero accounting for that money. That was the same parking sport where my previous car was stolen by police. Over 100 police towing contractors were also fired, after I filed felony charges pro se against them in the theft of my two cars, resulting in 2 class actions (no parking tickets, and police and mafia towtruckers denied towing my cars for 3 months, then sent me a $3,000 tow bill, and I never got my cars back after my lawyer was literally mugged by gangsters at gunpoint and threatened with death). Never did get my cars back. So now I'm so pissed off I'll NEVER pay another traffic ticket, and I'll tell as many folks as I can how they can win in traffic court. Best defense is a good offense, and revenge feels pretty good.
So you can graduate to the Big Leagues of traffic court, if you want to. It sure is fun to win!
In the old days, the best legal defense to out-of-state tickets was to ignore them, and not drive in that state. Computers and internet didn't exist, so no suspension of license for "failure to appear". If a defendant never actually appears in court today, the max penalty is usually suspension of license, since the court lacks full personal jurisidiction becuse the defendant never made a "general appearance" in court, in person. If defendant appeared in court, was found "guilty", then refused to pay the fine, that's "civil contempt of court". If a defendant was actually arrested and booked in jail, then was released on bail or by magistrate, then refused to appear AGAIN in court, that's a much more serious "failure to appear". There is no statute of limitations on "failure to appear", when a judge signs a bench warrant for arrest for FTA, which is a second charge of "contempt of court", since defendants already signed a civil contract with the court, by signing the ticket (summons to appear). Civil contempt of court carries a life sentence on death row in debtors prison, without trial, without bail, without appeal, which folks in divorce court find out the hard way (since they volunteered for jurisdiction of the court, by volunteering for a mariage license to marry psycho Big Brother in a 3-way). This is why it's critical to learn the correct way to sign any adhesion contract, such as traffic tickets and driver licenses, by writing "under protest" beside your signature, per UCC 1-207, which denies the court personal jurisdiction. Just say NO to slave contracts.
Ignoring tickets is still the best legal defense today, but only for robocop scamera tickets and parking tickets, which are civil and require mandatory "personal service of process", which traffic courts are too lazy and cheap to comply with (plus that leaves a paper trail that allows auditors to arrest cops, court clerks and judges for fixing tickets = extortion of bribes, embezzlement and tax evasion).
But hiring a lawyer MIGHT not help much if you already confessed to a crime. Lesson learned = STFU. Beat em next time. Don't get mad - get smart.
Here's video on how I, er, someone else, "talked themselves out of a 110 mph ticket", using the STFU defense.
This next video requires a different strategy in traffic court, but CAN still be won with a little effort:
Police State Video: Sportbiker passes cop during TV news ridealong on the Dragon
Police State Video: Undercover cops in camoflage hiding in forest videotaping sportbikers on the Dragon - Lawyer Chris Oldham got all cases dismissed due to selective prosecution of only sportbikers, per Equal Protection docrine of 14th Amendment to US Constitution. So police videotapes "catching you in the act" don't mean squat when police are themselves breaking The Law.
Here's what we're dealing with here in East Tennessee, which has resulted in 200,000 bikers boycotting the state so far, mainly because not enough bikers are fighting their tickets. Few tourists can afford to fight $800 tickets out of state, so most cops target tourists:
Police State Video: 18 cops and 150 tickets per 11 miles on the Dragon
Video: Chris Crocker says leave bikers alone
Pre-Police State Video: Got freedom at Deals Gap
Video: Insitute on the Constitution by presidential candidate Michael Badnarik attorney at law
Constitutional Law is for winners, but few lawyers use it in traffic court because it's more work (costs more money), and usually requires filing appeals (costs even more money). Unless you go pro se without a lawyer, then it's FREE.
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omfG that chris croker video was HALARIOUS. hahahahaha!
Thanks for the info, I read all, again. Any more info!?
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omfG that chris croker video was HALARIOUS. hahahahaha!
Thanks for the info, I read all, again. Any more info!?
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Just keep us posted on your case, any hearings, verdicts, discovery, etc. Or PM me.
Don't identify the town or name of court, date of ticket, or cops name. You don't want your confession on this forum used against you in court.
Be sure to ask for a continuance of at least 30 days, to give you time to decide what to do. You can perhaps do this over the phone. The best excuse is, "I need more time to find a lawyer". Usually a defendant only gets 1 continuance.
You never know, the cop might get fired, indicted or killed during that time, which does tend to happen if youre super lucky. With nobody to testify against you, you win. At least a continuance gives you time to prepare your case. What's incredibly amazing is that many sheeple still plead guilty, even when the cop is fired or murdered, even when the judge goes on TV and says all charges will be dismissed.
I do recommend buying that one book from Nolo Press for about $20. It's funny to read, but honest, with a lot of great procedural advice, and helps eliminate fear of the unknown. If you hire a lawyer, you'll know when he's BSing you.
Book: Beat Your Ticket: Go to Court & Win!
Same Book for CA: Fight Your Ticket & Win in California
You also MUST invest in a copy of the cop's in-car videotape, which might be on DVD, if youre lucky. The DVD will only play on a computer, and will include software to install to play it. This will include GPS speed measurement of the cop, and show when emergency lights and siren are turned on. If he breaks any traffic law WITHOUT lights and siren on, you win. It will probably include audio. You need to know if you confessed. Either way, you need to watch the video to learn as much as you can to avoid future tickets. If you win, you can file a Bill of Costs with the court clerk for refund of the $50 for that video.
If the ticket was by a city cop, you can request to read the personnel file of the cop, at the police dept Records section, since it's probably a civil case. Police chiefs make sure to put ALL the dirt in that file, which can be used to destroy the crediblity of that witness in court. Copy any pages that look useful, and look for the cop's home address and driver license # (if the whiteout didn't work). County or state cops' personnel files require Brady motions to get, after a fight in court. You can then pull the cop's driver license record at the DMV, looking for tickets, and do a criminal background check with a sheriff or state police. 1,000s of cops are convicted criminals, some with serious felonies on their records. Some cops are illegal aliens.
Then take your own investigative file with you if you hire a lawyer. Lawyers love that, because lawyers love winning. Most clients don't do that, so they can only plea bargain, which is not much fun.
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yea, take advise from you,, the same loon who references skull and bones secret organizations and 911 conspiracy theories in his criminal complaint affidavits...
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yea, take advise from you,, the same loon who references skull and bones secret organizations and 911 conspiracy theories in his criminal complaint affidavits...
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So we should take legal advice from a guy who wears a Nazi helmet and wants to kill the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution and Bill of Rights? Spooky.
At least I really did sue a class action agaisnt a member of Skull & Bones Senior Secret Society and BFI, and filed felony charges against them for cartheft. Funny how BFI was paid $3-billion govt contract to "demolish" World Trade Center "after" 9/11, with their partner Controlled Demolitions Inc. Funny how CDI bombed 7,000 govt buildings. Funny how BFI and CDI are also from my city of Knoxville TN. Funny how BFI had dozens of employees convicted under the RICO Act for membership in the Gambino and Genovese Mafias, who robbed the WTC of tens of millions of taxdollars (A&E TV Modern Mobs). Funny how I fight a parking ticket harder than Congress or any district attorney fights for 9/11 victims. Funny how Skull & Boners eat off Adolf Hitler's silverware, display Nazi momentos in their tomb of bones stolen from graveyards, and masterbate nekked in coffins, then get promoted to the White House. Funny how the mayor I sued for cartheft is GW Bush's gay lover. Funny what you can find out during discovery for a lawsuit against crooked cops. Funny-farm funny.
Towing Class Action vs Skull & Bones
Felony charges filed against Skull & Bones for cartheft
Every town and city has Satanic secret societies, called Masonic Temples, who control local polyticks and local courts. Lawyers, judges and juries really do lay in coffins and obey Masonic orders to decide the verdict in any court today.
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Master Mason's Grand Hailing Sign of Distress, Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor: Entered Apprentice, or First Degrees
Music video: The Master Mason's Grand Hailing Sign of Distress, by The Geezers - 110 mph traffic stop by DealsGapDragon
"After receiving instruction in the proper communication of the substitute for the Master's Word, the candidate is then instructed in regards to the Grand Hailing Sign of Distress. It is given by raising both hands toward heaven, with each arm forming the angle of a square, or a 90 degree angle. The arms are then lowered in three distinct motions to the sides. In other words, ending with both arms in the natural downward position, such as when one is standing at attention. This is alluded to in the Obligation of a Master Mason: "Furthermore, I do promise and swear that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of Distress of a Master Mason, except for the benefit of the Craft while at work or for the instruction of a Brother, unless I am in real distress; and should I see the sign given, or hear the word spoken, I will hasten to the relief of the person so giving it." The candidate is additionally instructed, however, that if he is in a place where the sign could not be seen, he is to utter a substitute for the sign: "O Lord, my God, is there no help for the Widow's Son?" He is additionally advised that the sign and these words are never to be given together."
-DUNCAN'S RITUAL AND MONITOR OF FREEMASONRY
Secret Masonic Handshakes, Words, And Signs Of Craft Masonry - Freemason Secrets & Masonic Ritual
"You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons, and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations."
-Ronayne Handbook of Masonry, page 183
Initiation rituals of Freemasonry: "I will obey all signs and summons handed to me by a chapter of Masons. I will assist a Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty whether he be right or wrong. I promise and swear to forever conceal and never reveal any of the secrets of Masons or Masonry under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across from ear to ear, my tongue plucked out by the roots; my heart taken from under my left breast; my body cut across, my bowels taken out; my body dissected into four equal parts to hang and remain a terror to all those who shall presume to violate the sacred obligation of a Mason."
-President John Quincy Adams, founder of the Anti-Masonic Party, "Letters on Freemasonry"
"The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the 19th Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"
-General Albert Pike (the Masonic pope for eternity), "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry" (the Masonic bible), page 321
Scottish Rite Freemasonry - Welcome to the Supreme Council, 33°, Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, USA
"There is in nature a one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could posses himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world. It is a universal agent, whose supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it can be possible to change the order of the seasons, to produce in night the phenomenon of day, to send a thought in an instant around the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and made them reverberate everywhere. The Gnostics held that it was adorned in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of the Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes."
-General Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma", page 734

"Freemasons have long been accused of Satanic practices as seen in the illustration of the Baphomet from Leo Taxil's The Mysteries of Freemasonry, 1897. Source: Archives of the Supreme Council, S.J., 33°"
-Scottish Rite Journal, "I Was Called a Satanist Today," Feb 2002
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But don't use their secret handsigns of distress in court if you aren't a member, or they'll cut your throat and feed you to Jabulon.
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I just throw the judge the shocker.
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So we should take legal advice from a guy who wears a Nazi helmet and wants to kill the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution and Bill of Rights? Spooky.
At least I really did sue a class action agaisnt a member of Skull & Bones Senior Secret Society and BFI, and filed felony charges against them for cartheft. Funny how BFI was paid $3-billion govt contract to "demolish" World Trade Center "after" 9/11, with their partner Controlled Demolitions Inc. Funny how CDI bombed 7,000 govt buildings. Funny how BFI and CDI are also from my city of Knoxville TN. Funny how BFI had dozens of employees convicted under the RICO Act for membership in the Gambino and Genovese Mafias, who robbed the WTC of tens of millions of taxdollars (A&E TV Modern Mobs). Funny how I fight a parking ticket harder than Congress or any district attorney fights for 9/11 victims. Funny how Skull & Boners eat off Adolf Hitler's silverware, displazy Nazi momentos in their tomb of bones stolen from graveyards, and masterbate nekked in coffins, then get promoted to the White House. Funny how the mayor I sued for cartheft is GW Bush's gay lover. Funny what you can find out during discovery for a lawsuit against crooked cops. Funny-farm funny.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
THIS DOCUMENT IS CONFIDENTIAL AND SUBJECT TO INVESTIGATIVE PRIVILEGES
Every town and city has Satanic secret societies, called Masonic Temples, who control local polyticks and local courts. Lawyers, judges and juries really do lay in coffins and obey Masonic orders to decide the verdict in any court today.
Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor: Entered Apprentice, or First Degrees
But don't use their secret handsigns of distress in court if you aren't a member, or they'll cut your throat and feed you to Jabulon.
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 thank you for proving my point..
everyone else? because of these internet lawyers
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Some people do an exorcism ritual on the Masonic cornerstone of the court house, before appearing in traffic court. Or pray to curse the prosecution.
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"Freemasons have long been accused of Satanic practices as seen in the illustration of the Baphomet from Leo Taxil's The Mysteries of Freemasonry, 1897. Source: Archives of the Supreme Council, S.J., 33°"
-Scottish Rite Journal, "I Was Called a Satanist Today," Feb 2002
"AntiChrist isn't coming - AntiChrist just got off the bench. But don't get the idea that all judges are crooks and gangsters, and all lawyers are scumbags. In court, don't let them rush you. We used to kid about it, that the court was the Synagogue of Satan. There is just a creepy-crawly feeling around that court house. It might be the Devil. I'm not here to judge if it is or isn't. Try not to be nervous. This is your time to shine. The judge may be on the bench, but this is now MY courtroom. There's something called 'due process'. You have to get your day in court. They want you to cower like a little puppy and pee all over yourself. Don't let the judge rush you. Don't play Perry Mason. Let them rest their case. Then make your 'Final Argument'. You are going to be prepared like 99% of the People aren't prepared. Most people just go in and whine and cry, and that's not what it's all about."
–Pastor Rick Strawcutter, Video: HOW ANY IDIOT CAN BEAT A RADAR SPEEDING TICKET
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Does your preacher preach how to win in traffic court, or is your preacher employed by US Dept of Homeland Security in a 501c3 govt-run church, with a "Christian" church logo of 666 (wiccan Celtic knot)?
More secret Masonic signs to win in traffic court:
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The Masons have their secret hand grips. They also position their feet in a particular manner to form a Tau cross [a conventionalized form of the phallus]. This type of position can be helpful if a Mason is called into court. With this stance, the judge (if he is also a Mason) can readily see that the person before his bench is a fellow member of his society.
You see, the Mason, taking the oath of the 3°, PROMISES TO CONCEAL ALL CRIMES COMMITTED BY A FELLOW MASON except those of treason and murder.' By the 7° of Masonry, the candidate has to promise that he "will assist a Companion Royal Arch Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty, and will espouse his cause so far as to extricate him from the same, WHETHER HE BE RIGHT OR WRONG."'
In the 13° the oath is taken to the effect that ALL CRIMES ARE TO BE CONCEALED, INCLUDING MURDER AND TREASON.3 This, of course, means that if a Mason has committed murder and the judge is also a Mason, the judge is obligated by his Masonic oath to set the murderer free, even if it results in placing the blame on an innocent person! In fact, this command is given in one handbook: It has been stated that President Bill Clinton was exonerated by the efforts of Freemasons in the jury.
Catholic Priest – Exposing Satanism – in Financial Distress
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I think one of the signs of distress is to stand with feet spread in a phallic Tau cross while arms folded then thumbing your nose. Or maybe that's the sign for meeting Senator Larry Craig in the restroom?
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