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Old 01-06-2009, 02:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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You are aware that a lot of modern cars can be tracked already? Onstar and similar systems are standard on many cars, and those can GPS track you. They sell it as a safety feature -- "If you get locked out of your car, just call us and we can remotely unlock it for you", or "If you get in an accident, the system will automatically call emergency services for you".
Yuppers, in addition to lowjacks and numberous other 3rd party security systems. OH not to mention pretty much any GPS systems that maintain a two way data links.....I do sort of work in technology after all

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For that matter, ODBII has some "features" that are problematic for privacy and all cars since 1996 have had that installed as mandated by the government. Which is how they would bring it around for this -- they wouldn't make you put it on a car or bike you already own; they'll just make it mandatory for the manufacturers to install them, and over time more and more vehicles will be so equipped, and few people will protest because (a) they won't even know it, most of them, (b) the systems won't be removable, and (c) relatively few people will be willing to forever limit themselves to vehicles made prior to the requirement.

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Well aware, in fact I was aware back in the 90s. The OBDII system in particular monitors and records the last 5 seconds of all control inputs and speeds up to and including an "event" being an accident.

Fact of the matter is that they systems are perfectly removable, but you would really have to tweak it to pass emisssions, and most of us don't have the equipment. I can go buy a Microsquirt ECU for $400 and pretty much plug it straight into a GM harness and go from there, but I'd never pass inspection. I love how that works.
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